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Kamala Harris

Senator Kamala Harris was just announced as Joe Biden’s pick for vice president. She is the first Black woman and the first person of Indian descent to be nonimated for national office by a major party, and only the fourth woman to be chosen for one of their presidential tickets, reports the New York Times. All the clapping emojis!!! Biden Harris sounds really good, don’t you think?

Kamala’s name is pronounced “comma-la” and here are 13 trailblazing facts about her.

I’ll be voting for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and just donated to support them. Will you join me? Let’s discuss in the comments. xoxo

P.S. 14 great Black-owned businesses, and where do you get your news?

  1. I’m sad to see the division in these comments. Name-calling doesn’t help anything.
    Would definitely love a series/post highlighting women with different political views!

  2. Alice says...

    Joanna,

    I hope you will also consider endorsing George Gascon for Los Angeles County D.A. He’s been endorsed by kamala, and he is the progressive candidate for criminal justice reform. He promises to prosecute police involved shootings, decriminalize mental illness, and abolish the death penalty.

  3. Marina says...

    I live in a small EU country. God knows we have lots of problems, that the far right is rising over here, as well, that there seems to be a never-ending economic crisis with small periods of prosperity. But I am absolutely amazed by what I read here. I care about US elections, both because they affect literally EVERYBODY, EVERYWHERE, but also because I have lots of family living in New Jersey.

    I don’t understand how any decent human being can be against a national health service. Good, free, public schools. Social security, maternity leaves. That’s not socialism. It’s social democracy, human rights and decency.

    I wish for me and my children exactly the same I wish for my fellow citizens and their kids. I take pride in paying 40% of my income in taxes so that I know that my children and the grandchildren of the cleaning lady at my office can go to the same schools. So that my frequent visits to the hospital due to my very clumsy 8-year-old opening his head or injuring his knee are free of charge, as well as my mother’s (and everybody else’s) cancer treatment. So that I could spend 6 months with every one of my babies, without having to think about money, or about getting my job back at the end of it. This wasn’t free; nothing is free; it was paid for in advance. By taxes. Not by sick and fragile people in difficult or delicate moments of their lives. That’s how it should be, everywhere.

    We live in community. That’s what makes us human. “The State” does not exist, we are the State. We take care of each other. The individualism and priviledge of many of the arguments here is absolutly dismaying.

    • CS says...

      Thank you so much for this comment.

    • Alicia McGrail says...

      Yes, this. EXACTLY THIS. Thanks for this comment, Marina! I’m an American and also cannot fathom how people can take issue with any part of your statement.

  4. Lisa says...

    To me, the Venn diagram of Cup of Jo and Trump does not even intersect.

  5. Beatrice says...

    Regarding the comments that the Trump supporting comments here are the work of either Russian bots or a call to action from some conservative PAC, if you care about Trump getting voted out of office, please reconsider this position because you are kidding yourself and frankly, living in an echo chamber that will work against the goal you are trying to achieve. Does anyone remember how none of the polls predicted a Trump victory in 2016? Or how the newscasters were beside themselves trying to not accept it all evening long? I lost complete trust in the media that day, and I encourage you not to listen to them now. It’s not just FOX that’s the problem.
    I lived in NYC for over a decade and then moved to Ohio (and my hometown) in 2013. I live in a city, and several weeks before the 2016 election, I was driving in a rural county and saw a lot of trump signs. This gave me pause, but not concern. The week before the election, I drove to my parents house in a pretty diverse, suburban area and saw Trump signs in yards for the first time. I said to my husband “Trump is winning this”.

    Some of my friends and family members voted for Trump, and they will again – guess what, some of your friends, acquaintances and family members will too, even in NYC where trump got several hundred thousand votes. Forget about them. I’m not wasting my time trying to change anyone’s mind. Instead, I’m focused on getting out the vote. It’s not news to anyone here that Republicans show up on election day. I know there are big problems with voter registration, disenfranchisement, etc, but think of the people you know, who agree with you, and don’t vote. Multiply that times x and you can see that there is an engagement problem. If you live in a battleground state, start with those people and go from there. There are many organizations involved with this effort. Get involved!
    Good luck

    • Anon says...

      It seems to me that (in most cases) having a debate with a Trump supporter is similar to debating a “flat earther”: They have their set idea and their fixed perspective and no amount of evidence or common sense will get through. And let’s be honest, If you have to convince someone not to vote for a racist, misogynistic candidate… well, you have an uphill battle on your hands. I am not saying this to insult anyone or to be rude. I am saying the truth. There is a Spanish expression that there is no one deafer than a person who doesn’t want to hear.

  6. Heather says...

    I am confused by people arguing Kamala Harris was chosen “just because she is a black woman” – of course she wasn’t, but also why is it a bad thing for that to be a contributing factor?

    Maybe I’m naive, but personally I don’t see it is checking a box on specific criteria and instead, view it as I hope many companies do, understanding diverse teams lead to diverse points of view which ultimately lead to more successful outcomes.

    I don’t see it as purely “she is a woman of color”, but instead “she is a woman of color and therefore, has personal experience with discrimination and in general, is better equipped to tackle these issues.”

    Or “she is a woman of color with a sister who was a single mom and parents who were immigrants” which again leads to “therefore, she has unique insights into these challenges.”

    Instead of viewing it as checking boxes, view it as checking off experiences and personal insights, which it might be helpful to remember, are the same experiences (ie facing sexism) large amounts of the country face.

    Could you still argue there were maybe some women of color better suited? Sure! But that’s an entirely different argument.

  7. Unity says...

    So fascinating, Y, thank you for this comment. As a Canadian, I completely relate. Taxes are how we pay for the society we want to live in. It might not be perfect, but I feel so grateful to live in a country where healthCare is not a privilege only the rich can afford, and where there are all sorts of programs to help our society and the people in it function well and thrive. Yes, a society can be organized in a way that supports its citizens and strengthens the group, and living this way gives us true freedom to grow our lives. It is true democracy.

  8. Joy says...

    To everyone saying, “I’m not like those MAGA-hat-wearing people voting for Trump because he is actively racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, and a bigot – I’m EDUCATED, and I’m voting for him in spite of his racism, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, and bigotry, so, you see, it’s DIFFERENT.” I’m here to tell you: It’s not different.
    I see you, and your “subtle” and “it’s complicated” support of Trump is directly propping up systemic racism, aggression toward women, federal overreach, voter suppression, decreased access to medical care, and harm toward people you know. That’s not ok.

    • Caitlin says...

      Preach, Joy!

  9. Amanda says...

    Here is what I’m doing this weekend: 1. Finishing writing 100 postcards reminding my fellow union members to check their voter registrations; 2. Having socially-distanced drinks with my friends to make our calendar of activist activities from now until the election; 3. Putting the Biden sign in my yard that my dear mother bought me. Was Biden my first choice? No way. But in 2016 Hillary was not my first choice either. The day before the 2016 election I half-heartedly door knocked with a friend who told me she was voting third party. I did nothing else to prevent the catastrophe that occurred the next day and I’ve regretted it ever since.

  10. Lisa says...

    Not only am I more than ready to vote for Biden/Harris, for the first time in my 54 years, I’ve donated to the campaign. Right now, today, this administration is actively removing mailboxes from streets and sorting machines from post offices. I for one will be going to the post office to buy as many stamps as I can afford, and giving them to all of my friends, family, colleagues and community. The USPS actually just issued a warning that they may not be able to deliver mailed-in ballots in time to be counted. Unbelievable! We’re literally fighting for our democracy right now. Thank god I live in Seattle where we have a governor who is on the right side of history here, and I know Inslee will do everything in his power to make sure we can vote. You may not agree with the people running on the Dem ticket, but it’s about voting for an administration who will heal and restore the damage that’s been done in 3.5 years.

  11. Emily says...

    Freaking anyone with a conscience and a pulse 2020! Talking bad about Biden & Harris does nothing but push people away from voting. We do NOT need a repeat of 2016 here. Don’t have to love ’em, but keep the negativity out and hold them accountable in office.

  12. KJ says...

    I, like many others, are dismayed by so many of the comments on this post. But more than anything, I’m scared that this is indeed a microcosm of our country. As someone whose mother is voting for Trump, I personally do not see that any more conversations will be helpful. What will be helpful is if every single person who is adversely affected by Trump votes Biden/Harris. I’m done with words, ready for action!

    EVERYONE MUST VOTE!

  13. silly lily says...

    NOT a Trump supporter. But I’m confused by a number of comments I keep hearing over and over. Here are just two:

    1) Trump is responsible for killing over 160,000 Americans.

    This is an easy statement to make as there is no way to either support it or challenge it. But I’m wondering why everyone here is so certain that the Democrats would have done a better job. In February, while walking through Chinatown, Nancy Pelosi urged people not to be fearful of the virus, as precautions had already been taken, and she had complete faith in Dr. Fauci and the National Institutes of Health. I’m not criticizing her actions or intentions here, I assume they were well meaning, but these facts don’t suggest that the Democrats would have done things remarkably different. In fact, in my area of the country, we had a NY Governor who had a floating hospital in the harbor and a convention center turned into a temporary hospital for the SOLE purpose of housing the contagion. Both went virtually unused, despite the fact that desperately sick patients were literally spilling out of overwhelmed emergency rooms. According to the NY Times on July 21, the Billie Jean King National Tennis Center was transformed into a temporary hospital at the cost of $52,000,000 (That’s MILLIONS) and treated 79 Corona Virus patients. That comes to $658,228 per patient. Compounding the fact that these facilities were drastically underused is the reality that the overflow patients were instead sent into nursing homes, where the virus (OF COURSE) spread like wildfire, killing thousands. I’m not apologizing for Trump or anyone else, but at the same time, I have no reason to think that things would have been better if others had been in charge.

    2) Ruth Bader Ginsberg

    Truly a remarkable woman. But also, almost solely responsible for the fact that a new liberal Justice has NOT been placed on the Supreme Court. As the senior member of the Court, and one who has experienced (and conquered) several serious health issues, it was completely in her power to retire from the Court at the beginning of President Obama’s second term, allowing him three full years to secure her replacement. Is it possible that I understood this, and she didn’t? Don’t think so. No matter what your personal politics, you have to understand that a sitting President will always choose a Supreme Court Justice who aligns with the same values and ideals. So don’t blame the President. Look to those who can really implement true change. It’s only up to the President when there is a vacancy. And short of impeachment, only a sitting Justice can make that happen.

    • Lois says...

      I recognize that I don’t have the answers, but here’s how I’m thinking of things:

      1) It’s impossible that we would have had zero deaths. Everyone in the world is dealing with a novel coronavirus and we’re learning things about it every day. That being said, we can look to other countries’ leadership to see how things could have been different.

      I look to two things – making sure that we have experts in place of authority, and listening to the experts.

      No other country has done what Trump has done in 1) dissolving the pandemic preparedness unit in 2018 that Obama set up in 2015 and 2) consistently undermining the authority and advice of top scientists like Fauci and Birx. He had Jared Kushner coordinate testing at the federal level, he banded together corporate executives (not scientists), and then dissolved the plan when someone on the team suggested it would mostly impact blue states. Even at the state level, governors who have relied on Trump’s support (GA, TX) have forbidden counties and cities from following CDC guidelines and enforcing masks or social distancing. It is this level of dysfunction that has allowed the pandemic to continue unchecked for so long.

      As a Korean-American, I constantly compare the US response to the Korean response. Mind you – Korea had its COVID case on the same day as the US. They never had to go into a full lockdown, because leadership took it seriously and devoted all their resources to aggressive testing and contact tracing. I recognize there are sociopolitical differences (e.g., they had revised laws after SARS that made contact tracing easier), but the differences are still very stark. Korea has had 305 COVID deaths out of 52M population – that’s 0.59 deaths per 100K people, compared to the US’s 51 deaths per 100K.

      It doesn’t have to be this way, and it makes me heartbroken that the US is treating these 160K deaths as inevitable.

      2) I don’t think anyone is saying that it’s Trump’s fault that RBG will be replaced by a conservative judge if he is elected. Everyone I know understands how this works. Are people still a little salty about what happened with Merrick Garland? Yes. Was the resignation of Chief Justice a bit suspicious? Maybe. But the worry about the RBG seat mostly just has to do with the fact that we want to keep the progress that has been achieved in the last 6 decades, not reverse it.

    • Andrea says...

      Terrific response, Lois!

    • Silly lily says...

      Yes, Lois, a thoughtful response. And I appreciate it.

      Obviously it was ridiculous to eliminate a pandemic plan. But a plan is only as good as its execution and I wonder if any segment of the American population would have willingly submitted to it. Korea has experienced this before (Smaller scale) and Korean citizens were terrified of it happening again. That was the missing element here.

      As a nation we would have resisted the serious restrictions imposed on our individual rights that saved Korea. Even if it was a brief resistance, it most likely would have given Covid the toehold it needed to thrive. The outrage and lawsuits would have been flying fast and furious.

      So like you, I dearly wish we had a plan in place; I assume it would have helped. But I think it’s overly idealistic to imagine that it would have stopped Covid in its tracks. And that was the key.

    • Heather says...

      @ Silly Lilly – agree there are some inherent cultural and historical differences that would make it difficult for America to fight Covid as well as Korea, for example. However, those alone really can’t explain how America has fared so much worse than all other developed nations. The main difference seems to be our leadership, or lack therefore – especially given the President literally said “I don’t take responsibility at all’.

      As an organization or entity knows, behavior by the group is set by the tone at the top – and our tone was unfortunately apathetic and lackadaisical. Trump repeatedly noted coronavirus would “just disappear”, refused to be photographed wearing a mask, criticized governors who mandated mask orders, and held mass rallies in the midst of a pandemic. Any of the actions would make him a failure as a leader, but this isn’t even a comprehensive list.

      Of course half of the country isn’t taking it seriously – their leader that continuously warns them about “fake news” and refuses to defer to medical professionals told them it was a hoax. Trump, his administration, and those that listen to him are clearly to blame for thousands of these deaths.

  14. Joy says...

    Definitely supporting Biden/Harris! So many lives are at stake – Black lives, indigenous, and POC, LBGTQ+, our troops, our veterans, our healthcare workers, our essential workers, our teachers, and my elderly patients who rely on the USPS for their medications. I’m not willing to sacrifice any of these for an economic policy that ignores the reality of the people and only serves to make rich people richer.

  15. Barbara says...

    Trump is now spreading a birther conspiracy theory about Karmala,

    • Andrea says...

      Surprise, surprise. Some comedian said that it was like the 2016 election was really a race to see who the worst person in America was. No wonder DJT won.

    • Michelle says...

      It just never ends…On November 3rd 2020 I want it to end. I want the swamp drained! Biden/Harris! ???

  16. K says...

    As a previous poster who expressed my intent on voting Biden/Harris but with lack of enthusiasm…my god. Even though I’m so much more progressive than this ticket, I couldn’t be behind it with greater enthusiasm, passion, and heart after seeing some of these posts. Lives are at stake. I hope my vote moves us more progressive in the future, but right now, I’m all in Biden/Harris, worried if it doesn’t happen, and hopeful for what really should occur in November. Thank you Cupofjo. I needed this reminder of the world and voters to be energized. ♥️

  17. Mara says...

    I am angry and fed up and frankly horrified by many pro-Trump comments here — maybe many of them are Russian bots (“Bidden,” anyone?). Trump is the deplorable that Hillary said he was, and the deplorables are his base. While losing the decent Republicans, he has to appeal to the deplorables to make sure he doesn’t lose them either, hence being more racist and disgusting by the minute. I no longer am interested in hearing Trump supporters out and finding common ground. Instead I question the state of their souls if they’re still backing that monster. He makes Dubya and Cheney look like sweet little puppies.

    • Michelle says...

      I feel you so hard on this. Pretty much since mid-2017 when I reached my personal limit for outrage I have focused non-stop on not reacting to proTrump supporters. That means not only ignoring their comments in social media, but also some of the hand wringing over whether he is capable of turning us into a fascist country. This is not easy. but I think of Europeans who suffered Hitler and how they healed after that war and I realize in parts its by choosing to focus on the good in the world. 1) there are not as many pro-trumpets as their is noise. 2) he has destroyed the fragile coalition that got him the ‘technical’ win in 2016 – remember he didn’t have the majority votes then and he has fewer now. Evangelicals and farmers and old people are over his fake promises. All that’s left now is the shouting.

      And voting. For gods sake people vote Biden/Kamala as if your life and country depends on it.

    • Aneta says...

      You may be angry. That’s your right. But how is calling anyone ‘deplorable’ ok? I no longer live in the US, and watching from the outside in is like standing and seeing the forest finally. Nothing is going to get better when the rhetoric and feeling on both sides of the aisle continues to be this divisive.

    • Anon says...

      Sorry Aneta, but this is one time when the word “deplorable” fits. If you objectively look at all of the things Trump has done, and the things he seems poised to do should he win, deplorable is accurate.

      If you look back at history, certain behaviours and leaders have been deplorable. One can’t be polite and smooth over serious human rights abuses, abuses of power, corrupt and unethical behaviour, etc etc. Deplorable is deplorable. It has to be said.

  18. Ru says...

    As someone who works with and organizes with working class people and black and brown people, this ticket represents a huge let down, a huge “you dont matter” a huge “we’re not listening to you”. Biden is largely responsible for the version of mass incarceration and criminalization we live with today, and Harris helped execute that vision. She incarcerated people for a living and refused to hold police accountable for misconduct, abuse, and brutality. Biden has lied over and over about his role in the civil rights movement, claiming to have been at sit ins and marches that he never attended. Harris pointed out his racism and deceit herself on the debate stage. She was chosen for her gender and race as a token, and the way this post was written is tokenizing as well. Its important to recognize representation, but we need to scrutinize candidates for thier actions, not just stop at their identity. Working class, queer, black, latinx, native people have been leading the fight for an equitable and anti-racist society. A society that includes healthcare for all, safety for immigrants, police and prison abolition, a a living wage, housing for all, native land back, and an end to capitalism. Biden and Harris have actively fought against these ideals for their whole careers. While I understand voting for them out of desperation to get Trump out, we dont need to pretend that these are good candidates or feign excitement for them. I will feel incredibly depressed casting my vote for them. I’ll be doing it, but I’m doing it knowing full well that should they win we will still an oppressor in the oval office, and that our job is to continue to fight and push for change. I’ll be organizing with my community on the ground to fight oppression, because I know that almost every elected official, from city council to the president, is not.

    • Suzy says...

      Yes!! Exactly this!

    • gina s says...

      thank you Ru.

    • Tanya says...

      Reading through the comments, I was thinking “how can I squeeze in time to write this” but I didn’t have to, thank you Ru!

      I’ve been learning a lot about policies and leaders in the last few months, all that free time (haha). I struggle with the idea that anyone or anything is going to “save us” at this point. It’s just not how our government works and it’s clearly not how humanity works.

      I’ve been finding myself leaning more to the right politically as I’ve gotten older and become a parent, which has surprised me. I’m honestly not sure where my vote will go.

    • A says...

      I respect your opinion and I read your entire response. But I need to ask you: where exactly are you getting your information? And how do you factually justify blanket statements like “Biden and Harris have actively fought against these ideals for their whole careers.”? I could point you to a long list of bills and initiatives that contradict that… are you just going off of sound bites here? Or have you actually reviewed all of her major policy initiatives as DA and AG, or actually looked at her voting record in the Senate for the past three years? It was 93% identical to Bernie Sanders, and in fact, govtrack rates her as more ideologically liberal than Sanders or any other sitting US Senator. (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2019/senate/ideology) I get that she is not your first choice, and she wasn’t mine either! You can disagree with her on policy all you want, you can and should organize to hold her feet and Biden’s feet to the fire. But before you slam her on a widely-read website, please take a moment to consider what is your opinion and what is fact, and be careful to not conflate the two. This woman is not perfect, but she is being held to impossibly high (and racist, and sexist) standards and an active smear campaign from both the right and the left. With respect, I’d urge you to consider whether this narrative actually advances the goals you aspire to.

    • Lulu says...

      Are you high? Don’t forget all the gardens of happiness and rainbows, dogs stay puppies forever, Ice cream never melts, 5 hour sunsets and breast milk fueled cars.

    • Ru says...

      A, what i wrote is that the society my comrades are fighting for is “A society that includes healthcare for all, safety for immigrants, police and prison abolition, a a living wage, housing for all, native land back, and an end to capitalism.” Please find me the policies/evidence that she or biden supports those ideals. They are capitalists, they are “tough on crime”, they do not believe in abolishing or even defunding the police, they do not support medicare for all, they do not believe in abolishing ICE, they do not support the de-commodification of housing, Biden worked with obama to deport a massive number of immigrants, Kamala actively opposed and undermined native tribes efforts to reclaim land that was rightfully theirs and opposed native sovereignty cases. It is up to politicians to win our votes and show us that they are listening. I believe in accountability and TJ and don’t believe that criticism means “slamming”, it means holding people accountable.

    • Laura says...

      Ru is definitely a Russian bot… “Comrades?”

  19. K says...

    for anyone who can’t understand why anyone would vote for Trump (I wouldn’t), which do you think is the more likely/stronger motivator
    1) they are racist and sexist
    2) their voices not being heard by the current oligarch, democrat or republican

    a (calm as possible) conversation needs to be had!

    • Claire says...

      I think no. 2, in many instances. The sensational, loud, and abhorrent often hog the microphone. Many of us are mostly concerned for the same things- our families, and communities, our health, homes, work, security, opportunity, the freedom to make our own choices. But we hear different ways, think different ways, respond to problems in different ways, and language is slippery. Underneath all of the language, and all of the voices, where our personal stories live, is where we can may common ground. It’s just hard getting to the humanity of it all- there are so many voices and arguments in the surface noise of our consciousness, so many habits of thinking. I have noticed when a disaster happens, or a crisis, the differences fall away, and people step up, come together. There is always a lot of grousing and criticism of a government response- often bloated, slow, clumsy and inadequate – but people on the ground get stuff done. I always try to remind myself: it’s the people, the people, the people, look to the people – there I often see things working out, work getting done, and there in that space things can be created. If I take my eyes off of the tv screen, off of people arguing with strangers, off of social media, off of the 24 hour news cycle, quit thinking the federal government is like a benevolent god that will swoop in and fix things, and look at what’s going on closer to home, at neighbors, and family, and friends, and local responses, often there’s a completely different reality, there is still quite a lot of good, innovation, points of commonality. Hope.

    • Michelle says...

      Def #2 is what they tell us. But honestly, voices heard and disagreed with is also the problem. Many proTrumpers voice values and ideas that our outdated and don’t represent compromise or even acknowledge the fact the much of what they ask for comes at someone else’s expense. So in my view, I heard plenty about how smaller government, unfettered capitalism and mega wealth would trickle down (proven false) to float more boats. I also heard plenty about how giving women, LGBT and immigrants a voice was “against America.” I just don’t agree. So claiming that conservatives are not being heard is just another whiny observation that power is shifting in this country and a lot of people don’t like it. Hence why this is also followed by active efforts to restrict voting. They don’t want to be heard – they want to quiet other voices.

  20. NM says...

    I think this is my third comment on this post. It is FASCINATING. I came to say that I hope someone prints it all into a book and writes their dissertation on it.

    Also— If it’s not been said enough already: vote! Don’t be cynical! The arc of history is long but it bends towards justice.
    Not because justice is so close you can touch it. But because together we each pull and tug a little, helping to bend that arc with the knowledge that we keep getting closer.

    • Natalie says...

      Love this!!

    • Gina says...

      I keep coming back to this post over and over to read the comments! I have learned so much!

  21. Andrea says...

    Joe Biden was my first choice. I admired the work he did as a senator and vice president, and I love how he is just sitting back and letting trump keep talking….. a brilliant strategy! He continued to serve America throughout his own personal tragedies which I believe shows great character and commitment on his part. I think he will do a great job as president and I suspect Sen. Harris will work to rectify some of her earlier policies (which were very much in line with mainstream policies were at the time.)
    Finally please realize that the toil of the pandemic will be well of a quarter of a million Americans dead due almost entirely to the current administrations abject failures. Saying 160000 dead as many are is a vast underestimation.

  22. Deborah Saul says...

    Ava DuVernay (Filmmaker, Director, and Producer of the documentary, 13TH, on Netflix) has some things to say about the Biden/Harris ticket:

    “There is no debate anymore. There’s no room for it in my book. We either make this happen. Or literally, more of us perish. People are dying. Someone I love died. This virus is real. If it hasn’t visited your doorstep, it will.

    Oh but, Kamala did this or she didn’t do that. I hear you. I know. And I don’t care. Because what she DIDN’T DO is abandon citizens in a pandemic, rip babies from their mother’s arms at the border, send federal troops to terrorize protestors, manufacture new ways to suppress Black and Brown votes, actively disrespect Indigenous people and land, traffic in white supremacist rhetoric in an effort to stir racist violence at every turn, attempt to dismantle most American democratic systems of checks and balance, degrade women all day everyday, infect the Supreme Court with another misogynist hack, demolish America’s standing on climate, actively cultivate and further white supremacist structures and systems across all aspects of American daily life. I mean, that’s what she DIDN’T do. So I don’t wanna hear anything bad about her. It doesn’t matter to me.

    Vote them in and then let’s hold them accountable. Anything other than that is insanity. It’s ego. It’s against our own interests. It’s selfish. It’s disrespectful to our elders. It’s nonsense. It’s talking to hear yourself talk. This is a matter of life or death. We need all our energy focused. This is a fight for more than can be expressed here. There is no debate anymore. Not for me anyway.
    #voteblue2020” – Ava DuVerna

  23. Tuna says...

    YES!!!! The past four years have been so dark and now finally, there’s this glimmer of growing excitement for a such a promising pair of hardworking, experienced, caring and thoughtful politicians who will follow and respect our country’s Constitution and the strength of the many many many people who helped to, and continue to, build it. Loving this joyful feeling of hopefulness to a better future for *all* Americans with Biden and Harris leading the way. Thank you for this post — it’s really wonderful to read and feel the rush of something good to cheer on!

  24. Ashley says...

    Kamala Harris is mixed race. So is Obama! Why isn’t this acknowledged more? I am a genuinely curious mixed-race person.

    • Annie says...

      I think Kamala’s half Black/half Indian identity is acknowledged? Maybe it will be more so now that she’s the potential VP? Obama’s white side is glossed over more but I think that’s because he’s not white-passing and his identity as a Black man has probably had more bearing on his life than as a mixed-race man.

  25. Jenifer Brunner says...

    In the words of the great John Lewis, Joanna’s post has started some “good trouble” and making us all think even more about the upcoming election and who we support and why. All I can say is that everyone must have a fair chance of voting whether in person or mail and we must make sure this right is not denied no matter who you are voting for this November. Vote!!!!

  26. Emily says...

    Absolutely I will be voting for Biden/Harris. I feel energized. Were either of them my pick? No. But of course, we MUST get Trump out of office. There is SO. MUCH. riding on it. So, I’m on board! I’m excited! Let’s do this!

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      yes! feel exactly the same xoxo

    • Jess West says...

      Yes surely this is the point. Trump is a horror show so just vote for the other, anything is an improvement surely.

  27. So long as we continue to allow capitalist(colonialist) barbarism rule, our systems will continue to oppress and subjugate regardless of what the figure heads look like or say. I would ask A Cup of Jo if there is such a thing as ethical capitalism?

    • Tootie says...

      Why do you think she knows the answer?

  28. Louise says...

    Blog post idea?
    When leaving a blog you’ve been a long time reader of feels like losing a friend and you mourn it.
    I won’t vote for Trump: he likes to lock people in cages. I won’t vote for Biden: he likes to lock people in cages. Not voting for one doesn’t mean I’ve voted for the other. Not voting for Biden isn’t me ‘showing my privilege’, being a racist, betraying my country, or any of the other things mentioned in these comments.
    I’ve long loved this blog because of the community of women that gather and comment on the posts. Largely the comments on this post do not show the community I thought I was a part of – both those for and against Biden have shown a lack of caring for their fellow community members.
    Maybe I’ll check back in in December, but for now, I just feel sad that people like to make complicated issues that should involve nuanced and careful consideration into a binary decision of good vs. evil.

    • Lois says...

      I so wish that your not voting for one doesn’t mean you’re voting for the other.

      Idealistically and theoretically, yes you’re not voting for the other.

      We both know that practically, the two-party system relies on a delicate balance of voter turnout. Especially in a swing state, if you are not voting for Biden you are de facto voting for Trump.

      If you are in a swing state, I beg you – if you’re not going vote because of the immigration detention policies, vote for the environment, vote for the end of this pandemic and too many lives lost, vote for return of diplomacy, vote for not replacing RBG with a white man is o govern how women and LGBTQ folk live their lives. There is so much at stake here. Please.

    • M says...

      Instead of saying all this you could have just left quietly and came back when you felt more well adjusted.

    • Holly says...

      I just really disagree with you on this. I think it’s a community of people who do try to understand the nuance of situations. I say this as a former Republican whose party left me when they nominated Donald Trump. As a proud Independent now, I don’t always agree with the very liberal voices here, but we all have to do a much better job being tolerant of the voices with whom we disagree–and maybe even learning from their perspectives. I will never fully agree with everyone in the room, but for the number of times I’ve ugly cried at the comments, I could never leave this community behind. Haven’t you learned so much about parenting? About relating to friends with cancer? About the struggle of someone who isn’t like you? About beauty in all sizes? About how to style your hair?? haha. There’s just too much good here. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

    • Kate says...

      Sounds like you’re someone who won’t feel the difference between a Biden versus Trump presidency! Must be nice. There’s a reason why 90% (via Pew Research) of black voters are planning on voting for Biden – many people can’t afford to wait for the perfect candidate.

    • Carissa says...

      The more I learn about the cage crisis, I learn that the issues are so complex. “Families” are being separated because so many of them weren’t actually families, but rather a face for sex-trafficking. Children were being rescued once separated and actually determined to have been kidnapped and trafficked. I’m not saying that actual, true families weren’t also separated, but that there were a ton of wolves in sheep’s clothing, and the trafficking HAS to be stopped.

  29. Z says...

    I can’t believe some of these comments. How are they different than “I’m not a hood wearing racist, I’m educated”??

    They’re basically saying “I’m not a MAGA hat wearing cliché. I’m better than that -thus superior even to my base. I’m so well educated that I smile in your face during polite conversation and do all in my power to take away your rights behind your back.”

    There’s no other way of putting it.

    • D says...

      Yep, exactly. Thank you for saying precisely what I was thinking Z.

    • C says...

      What rights are being taken away?

    • Shanze says...

      I’m a Muslim American, my daughters are also Muslim Americans and their right to listen to their President at the State of the Union or any other speech without feeling vilified and othered is under attack. Every time Trump speaks about Muslims he is offensive, I’ve yet to hear him say anything about us with doesn’t other us. I’m literally just as American as he is except that his earliest American ancestor worked at a brothel and mine was a surgeon who was recruited from India to help mitigate a shortage of civilian medical personnel. I grew up republican, this GOP is not that party. the right to protest and burn shit down is a uniquely american right- it sets us apart as being exceptionally free, any government which doesn’t tolerate this admittedly disruptive right, is wrong.

  30. Elizabeth says...

    “Time to remember the best voting advice I ever heard: Voting isn’t marriage, it’s public transport. You’re not waiting for “the one” who’s absolutely perfect: you’re getting the bus, and if there isn’t one to your destination, you don’t not travel–you take the one going closest.” –Debbie Moon

    • Suzy says...

      I love this!

  31. Sasha L says...

    Born and raised unionist Democrat, now a progressive leftist socialist. I am voting for Biden and Harris. I would vote for Romney, McCain, Palin, either Bush over Trump, happily. Karl Rove would be more trustworthy. As much as I disagree with their politics, they were at least competent and not fascists being manipulated by Russia.

    I was always open to listening to others’ political viewpoints and always, always, respectful. Good people could disagree about political issues. No longer. Trump and his minions and followers are fascists and terrorists. And you don’t negotiate, compromise or “listen to the viewpoints” of fascists and terrorists in an attempt to find common ground. Where is the common ground between seeking the destruction of our democracy, and true patriotism??? The Republican party has lost its fucking mind.

    • Beth says...

      YESSSSS I would vote for a vacuum cleaner over Trump! I’m not impressed by Biden and Harris and have serious issues with both. I would never vote for either for a primary. I am do upset with the DMC right now. But will I vote for them emphatically over Trump? YES

    • Lila says...

      Please don’t pretend George W. Bush is somehow worthy of your vote than Trump. He is responsible for the Iraq war, torture, surveillance… Trump has not led us into unnecessary wars.

  32. Lauren says...

    It’s fascinating and more than a little disturbing to read comments from ‘longtime readers’ who are now, in August of 2020, alienated by a post that is very much in line with what Joanna has shared about her values and beliefs for the past 13 years (yes, there have been changes this summer, but they are not shockers). Conscious consumption is a worthwhile goal across the political spectrum, and I have to ask: if you’re alienated now and have been turned off by “political” posts before, what and whom did you think was behind all of the other ones? Have you considered that the cognitive dissonance you’re experiencing might mean that supporting Trump doesn’t actually line up with supporting the communities and comforts you say you care about? Liberal fragility has been discussed to death. By contrast, I think we need to think a lot more about conservative fragility, and about how much of the damage Trump’s administration has been able to do to vulnerable Americans (and a lot of other people) is enabled when we make nice, keep things apolitical for Thanksgiving dinner, agree that we won’t talk politics in mixed company, and so on. Donald Trump is a repugnant human being in every sense of the word, period. If you support him and do not wish to have to think about what that says about you, you might be better served by automatically-generated messages from clothing retailers.

    • Stacy says...

      Yes! Thank you Lauren, for this mindful response! I feel that avoidance and/or complacency is a dangerous approach, particularly relating to the Trump administration and as well as the current dominant culture in America. I could go on and on, but you articulated everything so beautifully!

    • Holly says...

      RIGHT ON, GIRL!!!!

    • Sasha L says...

      Here here Lauren. Well said. 100% agree.

    • Thuy says...

      Well said Lauren.

    • Alexa says...

      YES! Oh my gosh, yes. The amount of people wishing for Jo to make them more comfortable by keeping her politics to herself…just no. It’s no one’s job to make you more comfortable here.

      And the idea that politics aren’t personal (in 2020!!!!) is laughable.

    • Joy says...

      Exactly.

    • Emily says...

      YESSSSS this statement just crystalizes exact what it is that bothers me about these comments by Trump supporters.

  33. Wendela says...

    I am beyond excited about this. I really, really wanted a woman at the top of the ticket and it took me time to adjust to that loss, but now that we are here, I’m thrilled that Kamala Harris is where she is. She is amazing. Also the VP debate will be one for the ages—can’t wait.

  34. Stay Together, Stay Tight says...

    Thanks for this post, Joanna! It’s so important to not be “apolitical” right now. For those who are considering not voting because Biden and Harris aren’t progressive enough, I wanted to share to following quote from prison abolitionist Angela Y. Davis on the importance of voting in this election:
    “I’m not actually going to support either of the major candidates. But I do think that we have to participate in this election. I mean, that isn’t to say that I won’t vote for the Democratic candidate. What I’m saying is that in our electoral system as it exists, neither party represents the future we need in this country. Both parties remain connected to corporate capitalism. But the election will not be so much about who gets to lead the country to a better future, but rather how we can support ourselves and our own ability to continue to organize and place pressure on those in power. And I don’t think there’s a question about who would let that process unfold.

    “So I think we’re Going to have to translate some of the passion that has characterized these demonstrations [over the police killing of George Floyd] into work within the electoral arena, recognizing that the electoral arena is the best place for the expression of radical politics. But if we want to continue this work, we certainly need a person in office who will be more amenable to our mass pressure. And to me, that is the only thing that someone like a Joe Biden represents. But we have to get out and vote to guarantee the current occupant of the White House is forever ousted.”

    The full interview from Democracy Now is below. Please vote in this election!!
    https://www.democracynow.org/2020/6/12/angela_davis_on_abolition_calls_to

    • Stay Together, Stay Tight says...

      Oops, is the quote above Davis says electoral politics is *not* the best place for radical politics!

  35. Eloise says...

    I don’t follow politics, but I do remember as a young liberal college student during 9/11 that President Bush had a calm reassuring presence on tv regardless that I voted for Gore.

    Trump has been doing quite the opposite, look at the mess we’re in right now.

    I don’t really like Biden, but we need a change in leadership — well…we just need leadership, it seems there’s been a complete absence of it during this pandemic.

    • Annie says...

      Imagine 20 years passing and you are still reminiscing about a “calming” war criminal

  36. Y says...

    I’m afraid I can’t see can how ‘socialism doesn’t work’ Cynthia. I’m from Australia and we have many government socialist policies that are life changing. For example if you qualify based on your income the government pays a Family benefit payment every 2 weeks for each child you have, pays you when you are unemployed, pays for your maternity or paternity leave, pays for your unlimited doctor visits, hospital stays, subsidises your medication, mental health care, child care, education and pays you a pension when you retire. Then there are countless of other government programmes that provide things like free post natal, pre natal classes, early childhood classes as well as free programmes for the elderly. The government even paid for me to renew my drivers license last year and my car registration. My husband had stage 4 cancer for 4 years and the only thing we paid for is parking at the hospital car park. He is now on a lifesaving trial that costs us nothing. The equivalent treatment in America would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Australia is not perfect by any means but we pay our taxes and in return are rewarded with a better quality of life that in many cases is lifesaving thanks to socialist policies.

    • Kelly says...

      “Socialism doesn’t work” is said by people who don’t think twice about using “socialist” public schools, libraries, police/fire departments, etc. It’s a lame argument from unsophisticated people who have never traveled and don’t know how embarrassing it is that Americans don’t have the health insurance security that other first-world countries have.

    • Kathleen says...

      Here in Canada and scratching my head for the same reasons. Utterly perplexing.

    • Lisa says...

      Same. I’m in the U.K. but have family in the states who support Trump, and one of the comments one of them had us that the alternative is socialism. I know for a fact that the person who made that comment had been bankrupted by medical bills. In the UK, I have received:
      – IVF treatment (fortunately i just needed one, but I was eligible for three rounds)
      – all my prenatal care, including dental care
      – emergency c section and two night hospital stay
      – all my children’s check ups and vaccinations
      – dozens of GP visits because kids are gross
      – all my children’s prescriptions
      – five night neonatal unit stay for my baby, at one of the best hospitals in the U.K.
      – five nights hospital stay for me, even though I could have been discharged, because they thought it best that I be near my baby
      – mental health support
      – emergency medical treatment
      And I didn’t pay a penny upfront. Nothing. It was all covered by my taxes. Pretty much all the medical staff I dealt with were professional, helpful and would go to the ends of the earth to help a patient. I have a colleague who moved to the USA and was in shock at having to pay out $6,000 for a broken arm (and he hs super fancy insurance).

      Seriously America, WTF is wrong with some of you people. I had to stop following at of my American family members on social media because I couldn’t handle the idiocy, and they are otherwise lovely people

    • D says...

      Australia also doesn’t have open borders and does not aim to provide those benefits to illegal immigrants paid by your taxes.

    • Y says...

      You are correct D when you write ‘Australia also doesn’t have open borders and does not aim to provide those benefits to illegal immigrants paid by your taxes.’ I did say that Australia is not perfect. The country has many many issues; the treatment of indigenous people, the locking up of asylum seekers and terrible environmental record to name a few. That is why rather than having to worry about how to pay for my husband’s cancer treatment thanks to the government picking up the bill and being able to work thanks to subsidised education and child care I have been able to volunteer at my local asylum seeker centre and pass my skills on, organise group donations to charitable causes (including migrants and women’s shelters) and support and vote for political parties that are for a more just and fair society because Australia can do much better.

    • anni says...

      i love hearing from non-US readers with your experiences of how socialism works. more please. this is how we learn. gosh, someone should do a home tour series that in addition to a lovely house or apartment tour also includes these kind of facts about quality of life, taxes, medical care etc in their country. I want to know!

    • Agnes says...

      Anni, Canadian here, we pay more taxes I think (compared to Americans) because we want and value what our taxes buy us – clean roads, parks, pools, libraries, hospitals, schools, at a high quality for EVERY citizen, not just rich ones. Canada isn’t perfect either (although we do a good job of presenting ourselves that way sometimes, eye roll) but I am so happy to be here rather than anywhere else, right now especially. I wouldn’t call us socialist. It’s a weird word to use. We are a democracy, which means, we all pay taxes according to what we earn, and the tax collected goes to quality of life for ALL OF US, no matter what each person individually earns. So, if I earn more, I pay more. That’s fine. In real terms it’s not actually that much. So do I resent that the homeless guy gets free hospital treatment if he breaks his leg?? Noooooo….. that is such a gross way to see money, life and people who are my neighbors!! He is homeless for a reason, and probably a sad one. What happy person wants to be homeless and suffering? He has a history, he has pain in his life, he has the right to have his leg fixed for free, because he’s a PERSON, and part of our community. Right? That’s not socialism. That’s just respect, and it should be given to all, by all, and that includes taking care of all of us. Not just the happy healthy good earners but everyone. I call that a good use of my taxes. I wouldn’t want to pay less tax and see someone not have access to help if they need it just because of money, to me that would bring ALL of us down to a lower level. You might be interested to know that actually Canada pays LESS in GDP (10%) towards healthcare than the US (17%). https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.GD.ZS Seriously!! It’s not even about money, honestly, it’s just a matter of being better organized and having the right priorities.

    • Lisa says...

      Anni – my husband and I have done the comparison a couple of times, as I would love to live in NYC and for the job I do, I could be expected to be paid double what I get paid in the U.K.
      We live in London, so comparably expensive city. Our tax is relatively high in the U.K., comes out around 40ish% (obviously depending on the salary). Even with almost double the salary and lower income taxes, it always comes out more expensive once you take into account having to pay for things like medical care and insurance (we have private medical insurance here, but it’s not too expensive), schooling. This is before comparing housing costs, food (I remember the CoJ “cheap” dinner party for $60 post. In the U.K. the equivalent meal would cost half to make), dental every time we do the comparison thinking “we’ll hve so much more disposable income!” And then end up at “nope”.

    • Jane says...

      I feel exactly the same way as the person from Canada who already commented and explained everything better than I could (English is not my native tongue).
      I cannot fathom why people would call what American Democrats stand for “socialism”. It is not even close. I am German and there used to be a (forcibly) socialist part of Germany up to 1990, as I am sure many of you know. I am from the “old federal republic” and glad we have reunited, but what we have now is not even related to a socialist state. It is called a social market economy, in fact, as you probably also know, and it means capitalism rules but the state makes sure everything stays humane, too.
      It is by no means perfect (nothing ever is) and our country has its own problems for sure, but you get free good schools, free or comparatively cheap university education (used to be free and now it is about 1000 dollars per year in some parts of the country for a great education), free healthcare that is really good (I have been to hospitals in other countries, so I know), whether your ailment is physical or mental, up to 14 months of paid maternity/paternity leave after birth and 6 weeks before birth, a midwife, birth class, aftercare, gymnastics before and after birth etc pp for free, help if you cannot conceive up to a certain sum, a pension after you retire at 67, free check-ups at the dentist, ob-gyn, …, most of the books at schools are loans from the schools and paid for by the school, unemployment benefits, free treatments at health resorts (nothing fancy, but still) for mothers and their children, free help if you have serious problems like drug problems, violence in the home, are a single parent and need help, have been traumatized, the list goes on.
      As I said, Germany definitely isn’t perfect, sometimes something seems unfair or too much or not enough or useless from my perspective (and maybe totally different from another viewpoint) but the idea that if I have a good income (which I do) I must share and make life better for all of us (myself included) is central and in my opinion what solidarity is all about.
      So we are a state based on (compulsory) solidarity, if you wish, but NOT, definitely NOT, a socialist state!

    • Agnès says...

      Same here, from France. France has been socialist since 1936 and even if a President is from a right wing party, the institutions are intrinsically socialist. Yes we pay taxes, and I love my taxes: they are my retirement, my unemployment insurance, my children’s education, my healthcare, my library, my public transportation, my cultural and sport activities (yes, it’s all “free”) and also, it allows my neighbour, who is unemployed, facing cancer and a single dad of 3, to live in decent conditions.
      I’ve lived for 20 years in a country where the public system is a mess and you have to pay for education and health and I hate what it does to people; so much corruption and privileges…

  37. Kristen says...

    I came here to read the comments.

    Cup of Jo Team – I would so love to read an interview with respected women who hold differing political views. The whole spectrum. What they believe in and why – their personal reasoning.

    I want to understand others better, and I find the conversation to be so one sided amongst my peer groups, and such a constant demonizing of alternate parties, I’m tired of it.

    Curious if others would be interested to read something like that as well? There seems to be a few comments from readers from other countries looking in the comments to understand why someone would vote for Trump, etc – and I want to hear from intelligent people why they would.

    • JL says...

      I second this! Such a good idea. I’d love to hear from other women on why they chose their political party, who they will vote for, do they ever cross party lines, where they grew up, did they switch affiliations as an adult, what experiences make them vote a certain way, etc. There seems to be a lot to demonize right now, but I’d love to hear real cases and examples of strong women with differing opinions. We surely could agree to disagree and be respectful to all, couldn’t we? Maybe it would be a positive practice for us all right now.

    • ks says...

      Vote from me for this! x

    • Z says...

      I understand where you are coming from, but I think widespread media have already been doing “we need to hear both sides” journalism enough for the past almost 4 years. So there’s plenty of that out there.

    • Joanne says...

      Yes to this. Candace Owens!

    • Jane says...

      I know I am taking the bait here and really shouldn’t but – what?!?!? Calling for a nuanced debate and someone suggests Candace Owens??
      Sometimes it is as if we are living in different planets, seriously…

  38. HeatherL says...

    Very excited for Biden-Harris. Keep your eyes on the prize people-don’t get pulled into the petty tearing down. Don’t let THAT be the narrative. And check out Emily’s List if you want to find a way to directly support more women getting elected.

  39. Lindsey says...

    I was going to write a comment about how I was hoping for a more progressive ticket…but reading these comments that doesn’t seem like the most important thing…
    There is an incredible amount of fear in talking about politics. If instead of villinizing the other party, why don’t we talk about what we are all afraid of?
    I’m afraid of not having health insurance if I get sick. I’m afraid for my Black and Brown neighbors safety. I am afraid that if RBG is replaced by a conservative, my right to a safe abortion could be taken away. I’m afraid for my close lgbtq+ friends, and how they could lose their rights, and face more violence. I am afraid of rapid climate change, and am fearful of having children in a world that is warming up, and it feels like 45 isn’t helping. I’m afraid for all the elderly dying alone in nursing homes due to negligence during covid.
    What are your fears? I know that people voting for trump/pence have many fears as well when they are choosing to vote. Would love to hear.

  40. Emma says...

    Lynn:
    And NO I am not a troll, I am an American who has the right to have my own opinion …..not voting for Bidden or Trump does not mean I am voting for Trump as it could also mean I am not voting for Bidden. Bidden was very instrumental in sending *American Jobs* to China to support the Chinese gov and not supporting the American gov….that really irks me Big Time for that left millions of Americans not working……that is ON HIM! Just as Trump’s decisions are on HIM also. I am torn between the 2 who I consider to be evil for my country…and one thing about Trump, he will NEVER leave the WH willingly as he wants to be just like Putin and that scares the hell out of me……Trump wants to take over America and push us to the brink of civil war….Heaven help my country!

    • Lynn says...

      Sounds like a pro-con list is in order. Biden did one thing you don’t approve of. Has Trump done the opposite of that, or only blustered about it? How do you feel about kids in cages? Did Biden ever do that? Heaven help my country if you live in a swing state!

    • Kelly says...

      It’s a little difficult to take you seriously when you’re misspelling the name Bidden like that.

    • Katleen says...

      Heaven can’t help you, but your vote sure will!

  41. LG says...

    “Nuanced non-hate based reasons” aside, I am stunned someone can believe that 45 is anything other than a malignant solipsist. I urge you to rethink your support for someone who does not give a crap about higher wages for us, the suffering Americans you reference (or any of the other valid causes you listed). My heart drops that you think he is someone who is capable of seeing the world through any lens other than his own subjectivity and what’s in it for him to gain.

  42. AMK says...

    I can’t help but wonder if Trump supporters were called to flood this post. The delusion is strong and the devil is a liar. Trump and Pence have to go.

    • Caitlin says...

      Seriously was wondering the same. Feeling so disheartened by the comments. Won’t let myself be blindsided like I was in 2016, though. Feeling more compelled than ever to find ways to volunteer.

    • Sherri says...

      No doubt!

    • Katie says...

      Yeah, even the even keeled sounding ones are putting the same spins on their reasons that my Fox watching mother uses. Also, I’ve seen a couple of ‘sex trafficking at the border’ narratives to justify what happened to all those children. While we should always be concerned about sex trafficking, the facts of the matter have been hijacked and twisted by groups like QAnon to serve Trump and distract from his failings like BLM and covid-19 issues.

  43. Ann says...

    I was really enthused about Bernie and Warren, but not much by Biden. That said, you better believe I’m voting for him so I never have to hear the name Trump again.

  44. Sage says...

    I will be voting for trump in 2020. I love cup of jo and am a long time reader. I don’t think I am the trump supporter the media likes to parody (I graduated from a top college, have lived all over the world, including the Middle East and speak Arabic, am not a racist and am not transphobic, have lots of friends from all over the political spectrum ). I would venture a guess that there are a lot of people in our country who are similar to me and who will vote like me.

    Sure it’s easy enough to say “a vote for trump is a vote for transphobia, racism, etc” but I promise you that there are many Trump supporters who have non-hate based reasons for voting for him, who actually have nuanced political opinions about economic populism, the outsourcing of the American lower/middle class workforce to China and the decimation of jobs and dignity for those without a college degree, the idea that a closed border has nothing to do with race but will result in much higher wages for those here who are deeply struggling, and have made a calculation that weighs out the pros and cons of both candidates and have rationally landed with Trump, despite his outrageous divisive rhetoric . But in my experience most are not able to debate these issues without getting reactive and resorting to name calling.

    My guess is you are genuine friends with a trump supporter and you likely don’t even know it. I would bet there have been women featured on this very blog who will be voting for trump. It’s easier (and a more comforting narrative) for the media and even blogs like this one to believe trump supporters are all walking around maskless in MAGA hats protesting for gun rights and hanging out in crowds at the beach in a red state then to find someone like me to interview.

    • Lynn says...

      Thank you for a voice of reason!

    • Viet says...

      No, Sage. You are racist and transphobic.

    • jules says...

      If you are concerned about outsourcing to China, why would you support a president who did that directly himself with his own product lines as well Ivanka’s? Or under paid immigrant workers himself for his own projects? Why are you not concerned about a massive deficit? If this is the calculation, please break down the justification. I know no educated people who support Trump just those from the “lower” classes, to use your words.

    • Alice says...

      Sage, you seem to be reasonable so I hope you consider the fact that even if you like/ admire/ respect his economic policies, they don’t outweigh the fact that he’s kept children in cages, talked about grabbing women, is downright racist, sexist, homophobic, and transphobic (I bet you have at least one friend who is LGBTQ+, so please remember voting for Trump is directly voting for a considerably worse life for them), and has directly led to the deaths of thousands of US citizens. Your reasons for voting that way may not be based on hate, but by voting for him you ARE voting for hate. That’s where people have “rationally landed”.

    • Sarah says...

      Thank you so much for posting this. I, too, am a Trump supporter – I’m a college educated female immigrant, not a MAGA hat wearing racist who hates women and trans people. It is far more nuanced than that. To me, anyone who is against child trafficking is someone I support – as it is one of the biggest and most underreported issue we as humans face. If you actually sit down and read the executive orders Trump has signed, this has been one of his priorities. Yes he is outrageous, yes he is divisive, yes he doesn’t have the smooth talking rhetoric that career politicians have…but he is the battering ram knocking down the old established political power systems that has had far too much power in recent decades. And for that, he gets my vote.

    • Clare says...

      Hi Sage. It sounds like you’ve put some real thought and care into your positions. And to be honest, that confuses me.
      Surely in your research you’ve seen who is affected by the current administration’s policies. And so you’ve decided that trans, queer, BIPOC and poor lives are acceptable tradeoffs for closed borders and capitalism. How am I supposed to not react to that with strong emotions? How am I supposed to not feel blazing anger? Why on earth would you rather keep vast resources for some rather than all?

    • Joanne says...

      Sage,
      Thank you for putting into words how I am feeling.

    • Michelle says...

      I’m a married black woman who lives in an affluent white suburb. I showed this post to my husband and said this is how Biden could lose. My husband is always yukking it up with our backyard neighbor and talking about how he hates trump. My neighbors on both sides are married white men they may laugh along with my husband and still vote for trump.
      You really articulated this so well. Most trump supporters aren’t going to tip their hand. They aren’t going to argue about it. They are strategic because trump is going to give them what they want. I want to get excited about Biden/Haris. But this post bought me back to reality.

    • karrie says...

      Well put, Sage!

    • Allison says...

      If you have to start your defence of a vote for Trump with “I’m not racist or transphobic” then you know this is problematic. You may think that you are not, but you’re at least apathetic to racism/transphobia, etc. I used to think one couldn’t support trump without at least being apathetic to racism since it didn’t affect someone directly. Now I believe, for certain, that one cannot support him without being a racist themselves. To be apathetic to issues that don’t affect you is to lack total and all empathy for others in exchange for some tax cuts, meaning you do not, in fact, value human lives. All lives do not matter to you. Hiding behind fiscal conservatism is also no longer a valid excuse. One can believe that the right to do what one wants with their own money is an American value that the government shouldn’t mess with, but they cannot ignore the fact that our deficit is through the absolute roof. And for what? So that the ultra-wealthy can get tax cuts and 3-martini lunch write-offs. How this will trickle down to the average American is something no conservative has been able to properly explain to me. This Senate isn’t even trying to pretend they’re fiscally conservative anymore. They’re not even fiscally responsible.

    • Kate says...

      If you vote for Trump, you are a white supremacist, plain and simple. It’s your business that you’ve decided to engage in whatever mental gymnastics you find necessary to justify this, but the truth is the truth. Please don’t try to justify it any other way. You are a white supremacist.

    • Jim says...

      You’re not at all concerned about the more than 150,000 Americans that have died needlessly thanks to the inaction and incompetence of the current US leadership?

    • Anon says...

      Australians would vote for Biden.
      We know what decent health care is like.
      Simples.
      No brainer.
      Boom!

    • sam says...

      I wanted to say that your middle paragraph resonates with me, even as someone who will probably vote for Biden. (I’m guessing it’s that in the calculating, I weigh outrageous divisive rhetoric differently than you do.)

      As someone who wants to figure out which actual policies or economic strategies will help people, I’m frustrated that most republican policies are decried without consideration for how they fit in a broader strategy with humane objectives. (To be fair, I think Trump’s persona makes it hard to trust that he himself has humane objectives.) For example, it’s inhumane that people working full-time can’t support themselves, let alone a family, so let’s say that a humane objective is making it so that people earning minimum wage can support a family. Economics is complicated, and a lot of auxiliary policies, beyond raising the minimum wage, are required to make this work, like inflation would need to be controlled, salaried people in the middle class would probably need some kind of tax support since their income would not go up but costs would, nobody (or few people, anyway) in the work force could be working for less than minimum wage, and we’d need some way of incentivizing work in the US even though it would get more expensive for employers. Obviously some of these auxiliary policies raise questions about immigration and commercial policy that on the face of it, suggest standard conservative answers. This leads to genuine conflict for me as a voter, one I think (and hope) that a decent person can actually have.

    • Sam says...

      I wanted to clarify that by “standard conservative answers” re immigration and commercial policy, I meant things like having semi-permeable borders and trying to reduce trade deficits. I did not mean things like mistreatment of people at the borders, hate speech towards immigrants and non-Americans, etc.

    • A says...

      Do you think Trump will be able to reverse globalization while advocating for free market + for-profit system ? And the next wave is robots stealing jobs. Perhaps Andrew Yang’s policies might interest you ? I know he is not on the ticket, but he talks about what you mention, extensively. ( Food for thought. Feel free to ignore. Much respect for sharing your hearts concerns out here. )

    • Nancy says...

      I appreciate these comments though I don’t agree with your conclusions. It sounds like you’ve made a decision that Trump’s economic policies are more important than his egregious record of racism, sexism and bigotry. I might even understand this calculus if his economic policies made sense – but they don’t. He’s wrecked our economy with his response to the pandemic but even prior to that, he had created the worst deficit in our history by cutting taxes on the wealthy and failing to lead with policies that might help the very ills you discuss.

      For example, rather than inhumane treatment at the border, why not create very real consequences for the businesses that continue to exploit undocumented workers? People are coming because it’s easy to get jobs here; remove the jobs and remove the temptation. As another example, Trump continues to focus on coal and fossil fuels rather than leading on new and cleaner sources of energy with programs to retrain workers. This is what a leader does – made unpopular decisions that are the best for our country in the long run.

      What policies has Trump enacted to address the issues you mention, such as outsourcing of jobs and restoring dignity to those without a college degree? Have they produced results?

    • M says...

      Love an “I’m not a racist but….” argument.

    • Sherry says...

      What you are saying above is true, and it is also true that you are making the deliberate choice to accept/look away from the blatant race-baiting, promotion of distrusting science etc as the price for the things you value more.

      I agree that not all Trump supporters are racists, instead I see you as willing accomplices to atrocities committed by the diehards, championed by your leader.

    • Rachel says...

      You say a vote for Trump is not a vote for racism and transphobia, but since his policies are clearly and unashamedly racist and transphobic, it is impossible for this to be the case. If you want to vote for Trump for economic reasons that is one thing (which I wholeheartedly disagree with, but that is beside the point here), but to be clear you are voting for those things if you cast a vote to keep him in office, you can’t have it both ways.

    • jane says...

      Of all of the above excellent points – has he accomplished or established any of these more than the amount of havoc wreaked/deaths caused? I’d love to hear that he has.

    • K says...

      Thank you for sharing your views Sage. It does help me to hear them and I believe many who vote for Trump are not like what the media parodies. I realize that political views are nuanced. It is for me too. No candidate aligns with all my views either, but at the end of the day I have to vote for someone whose stance is for those values that are more important to me. I guess the confusing thing for me about those who vote for Trump is, are his economic policies more important than having a leader who is racist and sexist in his policies?

    • Katie says...

      I’m not an expert on many of these issues, but I do know a lot about immigration because it impacts my own life quite intimately. I am American, but my boyfriend is not. He went to school here and worked here for many years – but could not get a long-term visa. What have we done since his visa expired? We’ve moved to Canada, where he has started his own business, employs multiple people, and where US firms still seek out his work – sending money straight from the US to the Canada. He wanted to do all of this in the US, but unfortunately visa regulations made it impossible. I know this is anecdotal, but it’s an increasing trend – talented immigrants are giving up on the US, and it is hurting the US economy. We have another friend who has a PhD focused on cancer pharmaceutical research, and she will also likely be moving abroad. Another talented software engineer who is also moving north. Other countries are taking note of US immigration policies, and taking advantage. Based on many projections, these punitive immigration policies will only accelerate the rate at which jobs are moved abroad – especially now that remote work is so commonplace.

    • Lois says...

      Thank you for sharing your viewpoint. In a normal election, I would have agreed with you. In a Romney or McCain election, I would have agreed to disagree.

      But right now, I cannot help but voice my objection. I believe in logic and consistency, the importance of facts and critical research, and in a fair democracy that allows its citizens to vote.

      Those topics seem like they should be bipartisan, yet the current administration undermines the authority of (and funding to) critical organizations like the scientific agencies, schools, postal service, etc. every day, and disenfranchises voters. We have an administration that refuses to do anything about foreign interference in our elections.

      When our democracy is being chipped away, we can’t just sit on both of the aisle and trust that the system will work.

    • T says...

      Obama deported more immigrants than Trump and he did it without caging them endlessly. Obama was centrist if we are honest. If we continue to be honest, we recognize that 4 more years of trump would lead to more wealth concentration, not less. Lastly, if transphobia and racism are ok with you in order to get your economic wishes granted, your values line up with trump perfectly.

    • Lulu says...

      Biden has been accused of sexually assaulting a woman. He has made some very racially insensitive comments. He asked an African American interviewer if he was a junkie. How is he any better than Trump then?

  45. Diane says...

    I’m pretty thrilled we have a legitimate shot at electing someone to replace Trump/Pence and ensure so much of what we need in continued Civil Rights, climate change support and so much more, we need to start moving this nation back from such an incredibly divisive place that’s been led by Donald Trump and his twitter feed. Enough.

    There are a lot of things I respect about the Conservative position but one thing in particular that really respect Trump supporters and the Conservative party – and am desperate for my fellow Moderate to Progressive counterparts – is how strategic they are with their vote. They will vote for someone they have signifiant issues with in order to ensure we have the right Supreme Court representation and so much more. I know Kamala was a cop and how painful that has to be – and I respect people who just can’t do it. I hope we can change some of their minds and hearts to think about trying because of SO MUCH we will gain with Trump and Pence being removed from power which has essentially destroyed our relationships with so many other countries, our allies in particular.

  46. coco says...

    Just donated. I’m getting on a bus going to a better place. I cannot survive another four with 45 and his intolerable cruelty and stupidity.

    • Anon says...

      And extreme Overt Narcissism to boot!

  47. stacey avelar says...

    The die hards are fact proof and very invested in their beliefs. I wouldn’t waste my time there. Conservatives, true ones, are not supporters of 45. As for Trump upholding the constitution? I presume the supreme court question is because of abortion, so if you are for that, you don’t support a woman’s right to bodily autonomy, nor do you have an understanding of the complications of pregnancy and childbirth. You are supporting an anti environment, anti science, anti human rights, anti LGBTQ, anti any color but white, pro Q anon, white nationalist facist. What are you doing here?

  48. D says...

    There were recent (horrific) news out of North Carolina about Darius Sessoms that surely anyone would expect to hear about in the mainstream media yet I could find nothing about it on CNN or MSNBC. This further confirms to me that these networks are bought, just as they are in socialist (communist) countries, to feed you the narrative that results in the majority of these comments praising Biden/Harris. Sadly, we can’t vote media networks in or out.

    • Nancy says...

      Sadly, we can’t vote media networks in or out.

      You may not be able to vote media networks out, but you can push for the reinstatement of the FCC Fairness Doctrine which was removed in 1987. It was created so that media would cover different viewpoints on controversial issues of public importance in a way that is honest, fair and equitable; it was implemented back in the 1940’s when there were few media options to learn about the various sides of an issue. It’s demise in ’87 came about when cable tv became prolific with many options of sources, but as we all know, few leave the echo chamber of their favourite network and it’s a contributing factor into the polarization of American politics. I would argue that the US would be a better place if the rule was reinstated so that people are made aware of all sides of an issue. Just because there is wide access to various sides of a story in the news media, doesn’t mean that many people search out other viewpoints or are able to critically interpret and put into context what they are reading and hearing.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine

    • Anon says...

      You choose who you tune into.
      We had a doozy here in Australia, Jones, a radio talk show banana brain, very Trumpish.
      He said stuff, people switched off, no advertsizing ensued, Jones suddenly “retired.”
      Every. Single. Person. CAN. Make. A. Difference.

      VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE ENROL SO YOU CAN VOTE VOTE VOTE

    • Julia Stone says...

      What a ridiculous comment- I did a basic google search and found reporting from “mainstream” news channels on Cannon Hinnant’s murder from 4 days ago. His murder was a tragedy, but his killer was quickly arrested and charged for the crime. This idea that mainstream media doesn’t care about this boy’s murder is a false narrative pushed by white nationalist groups.

  49. GF says...

    I’m going to vote for Biden and Kamala (and I was before she was chosen because not doing so is a vote for Trump and that’s a death wish) and while it’s wonderful to see a black and Indian woman take the ticket, I’m pretty confused why everyone is suddenly so on board with Biden. A month ago people were pissed at the thought of having to vote for yet another slimy old white man. We all said we’d vote for him (because, again, it’s a death wish to not do so), but we also recognized that we were putting a vote in for a man with sexual assault history, a man who wants to keep funding the police, a man who is better than the alternative but by how much? And what…he puts a biracial woman on the ticket (with her own complicated background, especially in regards to black folks and queer folks) and we just say ok? We cheer and think this is some great thing? It’s amazing Kamala is making history, but it’s bizarre and terrifying to watch people just accept Biden because he added a biracial woman to his ticket. And again, please vote for him. We don’t have a choice…but don’t think so much has changed

    • Escondista says...

      I think so much is on the line that the best isn’t necessary. Better is good enough – better than not being able to send our children to school, better than watching people get sick and die because of a total lack of federal response to this. Better is hope when we’re living in times like these.

  50. Alexis says...

    If nothing else, the fact that 150,000 Americans and counting are dead from Covid, a number that can be largely attributed to the negligence and maleficence of this administration in addressing the pandemic is reason enough to vote Trump and his admin out. In addition to being also all the other terrible things such as racist, fascist etc. Corruption and moves towards authoritarianism has only increased with this current administration. I want Trump out, pence, Jared Kushner and Steven Miller out. These are bad people making very critical domestic and foreign policy decisions that impact us all. I want a group of people running the government that actually care about all Americans and make decisions based on science, data and knowledge. This is a true turning point in our democracy, it will only further erode under Trump and a vote for him is to be complicit in that. Biden is not my most perfect candidate but I think so much is on the line that I’m not looking for the most perfect. Biden Harris for the win! Thank you for stating your support Joanna!

    • Maria says...

      This! My thoughts exactly. I’m not American, but I truly hope Biden & Harris win ??

      Cheers from The Netherlands!

    • K says...

      Yes, exactly this!

  51. Nono says...

    Sara – thank you for listing them out. Can you also explain how Trump/Pence administration preserve the constitution and have better foreign policy than democrats? Your reasons are vague at best. Sounds like you are voting for the Republican party of yore and not keeping the current people representing the party in mind.

    • Katerra says...

      I will be voting Trump come November. #keepamericagreat

    • Anon says...

      Sorry Katerra, but voting for Trump is not making America great. America is losing all respect from the international community, and Internally is being tragically divided and battered by the horrible ‘leadership’ (lack thereof). The US is in a horrible mess – from the economy right through to any topic considered. How can someone be so narrow visioned as to see Trump as making America great?

  52. Emma says...

    I am so sorry but this time I will not vote for either man, neither of them are worthy of the position of President and upholding the Constitution. I would love to vote just for Kamala Harris only as I believe in her.

    • Lindsay says...

      Respectfully, there is no viable third choice. If you don’t vote, you are de facto voting for Trump.

    • kb says...

      supreme court, lifetime appointees. What issues matter to you and who will pick the replacements that could positively or negatively impact your important issues for decades to come? Every vote matters and there are two choices: Trump and his Supreme Court picks or Biden’s. That’s it.

    • soph says...

      Then vote for Kamala! She’s on the ticket. :)

    • MBracco says...

      I will vote for TRUMP.

    • Kim says...

      If you believe in her, you vote for them. If you don’t vote, you’re voting for Trump. Please don’t throw away your vote because you don’t *like* Biden.

    • Bethany Cantor says...

      That’s a vote for Trump and it means more of the same. Biden may not have been many of our first choices but he respects the office, he got a lot done with Obama, and he has plans for programs like disability and ways to fund those plans that are realistic. I encourage you to do your research and actually vote.

    • Deb says...

      If you want to vote for Kamala – then you vote for Biden! She’ll influence him, potentially step up if needed.

      Not voting is giving your vote to Trump.

    • Adrienne says...

      I just saw a meme that was basically—voting is not a marriage. You don’t wait for THE ONE. It’s like public transportation. You vote for whoever will get you closest, and walk from there. If you believe in Kamala, then believe she sees Biden as a serious improvement over Trump, and vote for them. Not voting just screams that you’re so privileged that you can withstand four more years of Trump. So many cannot.

    • Adrienne says...

      Not voting screams that you have the privilege to withstand another four years. So many do not. If you believes in Kamala, believe she sees something in Biden, and help us by voting. Mohamad Safa said it best—it’s not marriage. You aren’t waiting for THE ONE. Biden is public transportation to get you a little closer to where you want to go, and then you walk. Please vote. Help us.

    • Lynn says...

      This is a troll, right? If you like Kamala, you’d vote for that ticket because not voting for either is letting Trump pick at least two supreme court judges. FFS.

    • Kelly says...

      Biden served this country with dignity ever since his early days in the Delaware Senate. He is knowledgeable and informed. Trump was well known among anyone in the East Coast who had a smidgen of sophistication to be a cheat, a narcissist, a blusterer, a failed con-man who couldn’t even run a casino at Atlantic City and routinely failed to pay contractors. Somehow he managed to con the rural rubes in yee-haw-ville to vote for him. There’s a huge difference, and shame on you for not voting for Biden.

    • Bianca says...

      Please, vote for Biden. Kamala will definitely influence him. Not voting is not the answer.

  53. Lindsay says...

    I truly do not understand all of these comments listing every criticism with Kamala’s past. How can you apply the same scrutiny to our current president and still support him? No one has a perfect track record, but I feel about a million times more confident that Biden/Harris will continue to learn and grow, while Trump stays stuck in his alternate universe. Biden/Harris ALL THE WAY!!!!

    • Sherri says...

      Right on, Lindsay!

    • Y says...

      Gosh I 1000000% agree. It feels like everyone around me is say “but but but what about…” For goodness sake! Go Biden Harris 2020!!! Go Kamala Harris!!!

    • Adrienne says...

      It’s hidden misogyny. They will vote for a female candidate. Just not the last one. Or this one.

    • KJ says...

      THIS. Reminds me of how women are judged so much more harshly than men. I see this with my mother in regards to Hillary and Alexandra Ocasic-Cortez. But Trump? She feels like he is entitled to his bad behaviors.

      UGh. Makes me so angry.

  54. Tara Randolph says...

    I’m honestly amazed reading these comments. It’s like 2016 all over again. I will not be surprised if trump wins again but you all will be. Has the past taught us nothing- get out of your bubble and talk to some conservatives and find out why they think Trump is worth voting for- only then will you have a chance to change their mind…

    • stacey avelar says...

      The die hards are fact proof and very invested in their beliefs. I wouldn’t waste my time there. Conservatives, true ones, are not supporters of 45.

    • Kim says...

      You know what assuming does, right?

    • Diane says...

      I don’t disagree that being in a bubble/echo chamber is what got those of us who are Dems last time around, but it’s important to remember that HRC did with the popular vote by a significant amount and those who voted for Trump simply because they hated her will and do tolerate Biden. The swing states are absolutely in play and Democrats are very active there – so is Texas. There is a ton of money and action happening where it needs to so while I do think this is helpful advice? Trump’s base will never be influenced, much like those of us who cannot imagine another four years with what we truly believe to be a very evil presence in Trump and Pence. I think the race will be very close.

  55. Andrea says...

    I honestly don’t care who is picked. I don’t care who is running, as long as they are not Trump. I have lived in a dumpster that is on fire for close to four years. I don’t care about the brand of ladder I take to get out of there.

    • Tracy O says...

      Yes. Nuance is a luxury for better times. This is an emergency. Vote.

  56. Lauren says...

    Mohamad Safa said it best in his tweet: “Best voting advice: Voting isn’t marriage. It’s public transport. You’re not waiting for “the one”. You’re getting on the bus. And if there isn’t one going exactly to your destination, you don’t stay home and sulk. You take the one that’s going closest to where you want to be.” #BidenHarris2020

    • Laura says...

      I really like this analogy!

    • That is perfect advice.

    • Deb says...

      WELL SAID

    • Elena says...

      Thank you, Lauren. I love this analogy!

  57. Ange says...

    Ever think that someone of mixed race has the right to choose how they identify?

  58. Sara says...

    I’m a regular (daily) reader of this blog and will be voting Trump Pence 2020. I just wanted to share that because my guess is that many readers share my political views while still frequenting this site for the high-quality, helpful and engaging content. It’s unfortunate that numerous commentors have made explicit that they won’t tolerate conservative viewpoints in the comments (or anywhere else).

    • Nano says...

      I think it would be helpful to know WHY you are voting for Trump 2020? I do not mean this to be in any way rude, but I legitimately do not understand how anyone, especially a woman, can vote for someone who is outspokenly sexist and racist?

    • Ange says...

      Conservative viewpoints is one thing, but there’s no space for discussion when it comes to human rights. We can disagree on Star Wars, not politics that go against fundamental human rights and further oppress individuals.

    • Gina says...

      Hi! I genuinely want to know why. My family lives in Florida (I’m in CA) and will be doing the same. I’m having trouble talking to them about it. Can you please tell me why? I want to understand how someone can vote for Trump again.

    • Leanne says...

      Hey Sara, thanks for disclosing how you’re planning to vote, even though you don’t need to. Especially as it’s a very sensitive topic of conversation and you know you may be a minority on this blog. I’m also curious in what made you choose Trump/Pence – not to argue, but I value different viewpoints and am very interested in yours!

    • JJ says...

      I am interested in how you define ‘conservative’ viewpoints. Trump-ism is not conservatism by any stretch of the imagination. His policies are thinly-veiled white nationalism at best. The border wall, the ban on Muslims, “fine people on both sides”, the lies about Obama not being an American citizen, his disdain for democratic norms. As a reader of the blog, surely it’s not hard for you to see how Trump-ism is antithetical to the universal values of kindness, forgiveness, grace, love, anti-racism, anti-homophobia, etc. espoused on this site I’m curious … what precisely are your political viewpoints that commenters won’t tolerate?

    • Emilie says...

      Hi Sara – thanks for posting. I agree with Nano and would be interested to hear why you are planning to vote Trump/Pence?

      There is obviously a liberal lean among CoJ readers, so it might feel intimidating to state your thinking behind your intended vote, but I for one would welcome the conversation. As a progressive Canadian with a keen but one-step-removed interest in American politics (which obviously has impacts beyond your borders), I live in a (very) large anti-Trump echo chamber and am craving intelligent female voices from the “other side” of the political spectrum.

      It may seem inconceivable to many of us that an informed American woman would vote for Trump/Pence in 2020 — and I’m sure we all discuss that around the dinner table each night. But I’m tired of that conversation, and of trying to guess what your reasoning might be. Further, the vast majority of pro-Trump commentary (I have tried to research this on my own) is male. All that said, if you feel up to it, I (and others I’m sure who are curious) respectfully invite your opinions and thoughts (and those of others on the right as well!) on this matter in a year where it feel like it is more important than ever to welcome a variety of voices to the table.

      Thanks as always to COJ for providing a welcoming forum.

      We don’t all need to agree with one another, but we do need to listen.

    • Summer says...

      Sara, I am all for hearing diverse viewpoints. I think where it breaks down for a lot of folks is that a vote for for Trump/Pence is a vote for racism, transphobia, homophobia, and many other egregious viewpoints. As the great James Baldwin said “ We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist.” As a gay woman, I am heartbroken every time I hear someone will vote for Trump because I know that the voter is willing to disregard my humanity. In many ways, I feel (finally) supported knowing that my fellow CoJ readers will advocate against such a hateful candidate. I hope this gives some insight into why people are so passionate about this – the lives and rights of so many depend on this election.

    • Ameya says...

      Hi Sara,

      Me too! I suspect there are quite a few of us. So many of these comments are SO condescending of conservative – or even moderate- viewpoints. I truly wonder if their refusal to engage with other views will lead to the same shock and disbelief if Trump wins re-election this fall.

    • Sara says...

      Thank you to those who respectfully continued this discussion.

      Many commentors have invoked the bus analogy to justify their vote for candidates they don’t personally endorse. The analogy cuts both ways in this election. I plan on voting Republican for judges (RBG’s replacement as well as federal judges), foreign policy (my greatest concern personally is China), and an administration more inclined to preserve the Constitution.

    • courtney says...

      Ameya and Sara,

      I am legitimately very curious as to your reasoning for going this route – I don’t mean that in a flippant or hostile way, whatsoever. Pre-Trump, I could understand conservative stances. I think we can all strive to understand viewpoints without necessarily sharing them, and that’s an important part of an ongoing political conversation. However, I sincerely don’t understand the reasoning for a Trump vote at this juncture (especially considering the other candidate we ended up with seems pretty innocuously moderate) and would truly like to hear from those who are making the decision to vote that way. I don’t mean this to be argumentative in the least – I just want to understand.

    • Jenn says...

      Fully agree. I used to love this blog but the left leaning posts prevent me from reading as much as I would otherwise. I don’t shove my political views on everyone and it makes me sick to read posts assuming everyone feels the same way you do….

    • Roxana says...

      Sara, as a fellow conservative and voter of Trump/Pence 2020, I appreciate your comment and agree.

      I will add that the vitriol that is very often blatantly expressed (and tolerated) by those who disagree (either with conservative viewpoints, or with a Trump/Pence vote) can make it uncomfortable to come to this space. I’m certain many readers couldn’t care less and would rather we leave altogether. I don’t agree with Joanna/the left/progressives on many social and most political issues, but I think I’m a big girl and can still find common ground despite those significant differences. At the end of the day, we’re all just people needing grace and usually desiring to give it. I do believe Joanna desires to be inclusive and sensitive to differing view-points, even though I think she’s fallen short on this front : /. However, it’s her space! If you’re invited to someone’s house and know what they think about certain things, expect to be confronted with those things, right? Whether the host should make a greater effort to keep everyone comfortable is another question for another day. I’m kind of a bristly person myself and enjoy the friction, as it forces me to think more critically.

      I wish I could share my views on all the different issues, but I don’t think this is the platform (too much to say, too many nuances). Although, I’d be willing to share my e-mail address if someone wanted it. I’ll just say this, as compared to other candidates Trump/Pence and the Republican platform align with my values more than any other candidate or party. I echo Sara’s reasons and would add that I am pro-life/anti-choice as I believe life begins at conception, etc.

      I’ll end with what I said before: we’re all just people needing grace and (usually!) desiring to give it. Can we start there first?

    • Cynthia says...

      I’m voting Trump/Pence because I don’t want America to become socialist. Socialism doesn’t work. Period.

    • Amber says...

      Same, Sara!

    • Why says...

      What I am seeing here is the Trump/Pence 2020 supporters are okay with supporting a terrible person, but as long as the views of the party align with their beliefs they should be fine.
      It is one thing to support certain values but pray tell me, how do you overlook the general disregard for rules, the cheating at every election, the failure to contain the pandemic and still say no wait, he is pro-choice so everything else is okay and I need four more years of him. How is it okay to be a single-issue voter in this day and age? The readers supporting Trump here are educated and most likely (here is my guess, pretty wealthy) but still turn a blind eye to the suffering of fellow women, the needless deaths, all the cheating. Does that not matter? Why?

    • Ks says...

      @Sara, thank you for your comment. Not because I am voting for Trump but because I believe we are better humans and more intelligent people if we act with curiousity and a desire to learn rather than to slander each other. I appreciate your boldness in stepping up to this blog and coming forth as someone who is voting for Trump.

      I block walked and phone banked for Beto when he ran in my state . I supported both Pete and Elizabeth Warren when they ran. But like you, my partner is a republican. We agree to disagree which “bus” is better but being with him has taught me I’m stronger as person and in my political beliefs if I can have thoughtful, educated debates from both sides on all issues. He does not support trump but to echo the “bus” sentiment raised here – believes that is the better bus to be on.

    • Kate says...

      I just wish people who are pro-life would also focus on abolishing the death penalty, improving our public health response (our COVID death rate is so many times more per capita than most other countries), and making sure everyone gets health care (under Trump doctors now can abstain from treating trans patients, our maternal mortality rates are higher than most other developed countries, even higher for black women, etc). Even beyond the debate for when life starts, I just don’t understand why the same anti-abortion passion isn’t applied to other areas.

    • Roxana says...

      Courtney,
      I’m not voting for Trump as much as I am voting for the policies he espouses. Those policies align more with my values. I’m not voting for him because I think he’d make a great pastor or because I think he’s a nice guy. I think he says idiotic things (to put it mildly :/). I think he’s probably a bully. I think a lot of “negative” things about him. I don’t “love” Trump, but I don’t think I have to in order to think that he’ll make a better president than Biden (or than Hillary would’ve; I think she was/is corrupt to the core). I think he’s being a CEO. While I’m not a raging capitalist, I do think democratic capitalism is the best approach as it generally works (not perfectly or as it should all the time, but generally) so I’ll ride the bus.

      Also, I do not believe the media has treated him objectively or fairly AT ALL, which has lead to a lot of unnecessary polarization. In fact, I believe the bias against him has been studied and quantified (I’m sure we could look it up). The general zeitgeist is that he hasn’t done a single thing right, which just smells wrong. No one (except maybe Hitler and a few other megalomaniacs) is ever entirely wrong – that’s just not human nature. If it helps, I did not vote for Obama, but he did a few things that I believed were right.

      More I could say, but hopefully some of what I’ve said brings some understanding.

    • Sara says...

      Roxana, I agree with every word. Thank you for taking the time to add to the discussion.

    • A Jo Voting for Trump2020 says...

      Roxana, beautifully said and completely agree with you! Thank you for your comment.

    • Jessica says...

      Thank you Sara, I will be voting Trump/Pence as well just as I did the first time around.

    • anon says...

      I am not a conservative (voter), nor do I feel these last couple of election so thrilled with the alternative. But I just want to say to those asking Sara to explain why she is voting the way she is under the guise of “curiosity” or “wanting to know more” or “be more informed of how the conservative side thinks” feels wrong, even if your true intent is simply curious. No one has asked any moderate, liberal, or progressive liberal to explain why they vote the way they do. It feels like she’ll be walking into the lion’s den. Maybe instead of simply posting an article about the Harris/Biden ticket, a thoughtful, and truly unbiased post about various perspectives of the election would be more productive.

    • MBracco says...

      I will be voting for Trump/Pence also.
      I agree with your comment.

    • Zoe says...

      You say unfortunate, I say, thank goodness people are fighting back against the disgusting racist, sexist, anti-immigrant, homophobic, anti-science depravity that Trump and Republicans are providing us with. 50ish percent of white women are going to vote for him, I just thought you’d all be more ashamed and would do it in secret! (To the people who moderate this- totally fair if this doesn’t get posted, but I cannot even with this, if four years of Trump doesn’t make you see sense, you’re beyond help.)

    • Kim says...

      It’s really hard to understand your viewpoint with the bus analogy as 160,000+ Americans have died since Covid hit in March, there have been race riots in most major cities and our country and constitution are in tatters from that man. But sure, it’s because he’s “conservative.” So is Biden. So is Harris.

    • Adrienne says...

      Sara’s reply says it all. Most conservatives will vote republican no matter how unethical or misogynistic or racist they are, because that is the ticket to a highly conservative court. McConnell has stacked the federal courts with individuals that will override the rights of minorities, women and the LGTBQ community at every turn—and if that isn’t what they are specifically after, it’s ok if it’s collateral damage.

    • Lynn says...

      Not loving Trump but turning a blind eye to his million atrocities. Gotcha. I guess those child asylum seekers will have to figure out how to get out of cages or sex trafficking some other way.

    • Emilie says...

      Hi Roxana — would be glad to continue the discussion via email. ecox@dal.ca if you’d like to reach out :)

    • Holly says...

      I’ve been legitimately stumped for years now as to why so many (not all) Christian women would vote for for a man like Trump. He seems like everything they are against. And then I had the most eye opening conversation with my older sister, whom I love dearly but with whom I’m not particularly close. She’s 60, a devout Christian, married to a loving man (but absolutely the head of the household) & she said it’s not about Trump. He is but a vessel to make sure that the agenda they want is pushed through. Specifically, pro-life, anti-gay, etc. Aaahhhh. They are laser focused on this. It does not matter to her or bother her that Trump himself is morally corrupt. She says this is not her problem. It is his (at the time of reckoning). And I’ll tell you, that strikes fear in me. All these years I’ve been trying to have a logical discussion only to find that so many of his followers are not interested in having a discussion about politics. They are interested in having a discussion about religious beliefs. I however absolutely have friends who are younger, Christian & see him for what he his. They are still pro-life but are not voting for the President of the United States of America as their own personal pastor.

    • Roxana says...

      Lynn, you do know that child asylum seekers were actually TRAFFICKED
      under Obama, right? 2014. Please take a moment to inform yourself.

      The whole thing was an utter fiasco and devastating to children (if it helps you, I spend a lot of time advocating for vulnerable children, so this is near and dear to my heart and to my colleagues’ hearts). Trump should’ve ended it sooner (NO QUESTION), but our Dem majority House could’ve done something, too! And yet they didn’t, because instead of doing whatever they could to protect children, they played it as a political card.

      Either way, let’s make sure we know the history of it. The family separation policy started under Clinton as the result of a lawsuit (please note this was an instance of legislating from the bench! Big problem! It’s one of the reasons we conservatives maintain judicial restraint!). It continued under W, Obama and Trump. Please look-up an NPR interview from June of 2018 that’s titled “Obama Official on Family Separation.” I think you’ll learn a few things. For one, these situations are always far more complicated than we’d like them to be. Also, please look-up a 2014 interview Obama gave to George Stephanopolous on ABC News.

    • Roxana says...

      Emilie,
      Thanks! I’ll reach-out!

    • jane says...

      @Holly,
      Thank you for sharing that – I’ve heard this before and it is one of the best reasons to vote against that agenda. How is a religious agenda even in play on a political level in the USA? Separation of church and state is inviolate I thought but I guess needs to be formally re-addressed asap by everyone who understands why it is vital it remains that way. Call your senators TODAY!

      All Americans need to be free to practice their beliefs. Spiritual perspectives cannot be forced upon anyone but yourself. Do the Quakers force their lifestyle on the populace? No. They are the lifestyle examples the religious right is looking for. National policy is no place for religious beliefs.

    • Sasha L says...

      I continue to be completely confused by what trump voters are even doing here. Literally every post is full of the “liberal agenda” that they hate so much. The comments are full of even more progressivism.

      Are you masochists? Are blogs run by trump supporters just no fun? I mean you kind of suck as a trump supporter if you are coming here and supporting Joanna and all of the POC, trans folks, socialist leaning people and everyone else you see here. This page is literally fill of women who support fill reproductive rights? You just squint hard and pretend not to see?? I guess you’re pretty good at that. You’re at the wrong party peeps.

    • Roxana says...

      To those believing that pro-life Christians are trying to legislate religion or violate the separation of church and state:

      If I believe that human life begins at conception, and if I believe that the taking of an innocent human life is wrong (I’m assuming we all believe the latter – you don’t need to be a Christian to agree to that), then it naturally follows that I would believe it’s the government’s place to protect that life and to forbid others from taking it. Just like we have all sorts of laws that protect our lives. Hence, I believe abortion should be illegal.

      It all logically follows. “If a=b and b=c, then a=c.”

      It does not logically follow that in an attempt to protect all human life I am also trying to foist Christianity (or any other religion) upon everyone else, or violate the separation of church and state.

    • Jane says...

      Agree with you Sara. I will be voting for Trump as well but still love this blog.

    • Lois says...

      Roxana, that is where I disagree. I don’t believe that it “naturally follows” that you believe the government should regulate everyone’s bodies, if you believe abortion is wrong. There are many things that I think are wrong personally that I don’t expect the government to ban for everyone because not everyone may think it’s wrong and it’s not directly threatening my safety. Isn’t the Republican Party a political party that believes in small government and individual liberties? Or is that just when it pertains to your liberties and wealth?

    • Roxana says...

      Lois, respectfully, what I have laid out is a matter of logic. It’s not up for disagreement. Just like 2+2=4 is not something we could debate about (I mean, I suppose you could, but you’d be pretty bold). It’s true whether or not we want it to be.

      The issue, admittedly, really is (a) – does human life begin at conception? Which necessitates asking a few other questions such as. . . If it does begin at conception, who has the right to end it? What does it mean to be human? And at what point does the government prohibit the ending of it? There are a few other existential, ontological and moral questions mixed into all this and I’m not about to list them all. . . Either way, I’m hoping we agree that murder is wrong?

      Although, you’re pretty clear that you think the government should only intervene if it’s “threatening your safety?” So, like the kids separated from their parents at the border and being kept in cages is okay with you, because “it’s not threatening your safety?” What about children being sexually abused? Or say genocides? Rawanda? Darfur? Slavery? “Not threatening your safety.” Do you really mean that? I don’t think you do. The implications of that statement are REALLY problematic (to put it mildly) by most any standard (religious or otherwise). I don’t know. I’m for smaller government, but these are instances in which I do expect the government to get involved, and yes “ban.”

      As for your question about the Republican party, I am no die-hard Republican and never claimed to be. However, it doesn’t really matter because truly your characterization is overly simplistic and doesn’t speak to the issue at hand.

    • Lois says...

      Roxana, I think you’re missing a step in your logic. You said that since a) you believe human life begins at conception b) you believe that taking a human life is wrong, then you believe government should intervene. What you’re missing is the c=d link, which is that government should intervene whenever something is wrong. That’s what would get you to a=d.

      That’s where I respectfully differ. I believe that it is possible to think something is horrible and want to fix it without calling for the government to regulate it. To respond more directly to some of your examples since they’re pretty incongruous:
      – yes I believe that family separation is wrong, and because the GOVERNMENT is initiating this, I believe the government should stop.
      – for genocides in Rwanda. I believe it’s wrong and have done things in my power to raise awareness and contribute to local organizations helping the cause. Do I think it’s the American government’s job to step in? No.

      You’re conflating thinking something is wrong with needing the government to stop it. You can do the former without the latter.

      I am not going to argue whether life begins at conception since that is such a personal view and I acknowledge there are differences. It is precisely because of this and the fact that abortions are necessary for medical and economic reasons for many women that make the issue more complicated and beyond the scope of government reach.

  59. kb says...

    And the supreme court will decide issues for a long, long time to come. There are sure to be some new lifetime appointees in the next four years. Gay rights, climate, women’s rights, voter rights, corporate versus individuals rights, health care, case that affect us all will be decided by lifetime appointees. If that isn’t reason enough, I don’t know what is.

  60. KB says...

    So excited! Other ways to support, besides directly to BidenHarris, is to volunteer with/follow @podsaveamerica, @wisdems, @padems, donate to @fairfightaction, sistersdistrict.com, mijente in AZ, MOVE Texas, Mi Familia TX, and so many more.

    Please make sure you are registered to vote at vote.org and that everyone you know has checked out their state’s exact dates for mail in ballots.

    If you are young and healthy pease considering volunteering as a poll worker or election oversight through your state’s dem party.

    If you are an employer please consider giving employees the day off to vote – Coca Cola CO is doing it this year for the first time for all its’ employees.

    Let’s go!!!

    • Amy G says...

      Trump is not even a respectable person yet along a respectable president. Biden/harris is the best choice. At this point its about the future of our country. If you pick Trump, you’re setting us back and letting a morally corrupt person have the highest office. I want us to do better. Please.

    • Anon says...

      YES! Registering by the due date is IMPORTANT

  61. LW says...

    As a non-American watching the US news… can someone kindly tell me why Kamala is nearly always referred to as black? She’s half Indian, right? And maybe it’s my own Asian background here but when I first saw her I didn’t realise she was actually half-black, so is it because in the US generally people would see her and assume her skin colour = black heritage, or is it another reason?

    (Thank you to anyone who responds)

    • Nancy says...

      Unfortunately, America has a long history of racism and anyone who has Black blood – no matter how small – and looks remotely Black is referred to as Black. There was even a “one-drop” rule in some Southern states, which meant if you even had one drop of Black blood, you were Black. Here’s an article that might be helpful: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/jefferson/mixed/onedrop.html

    • Marisa says...

      Kamala is biracial- her mother is Indian and her father is Jamaican.
      Below is excerpted from bbc.com:
      “My mother understood very well she was raising two black daughters. She knew that her adopted homeland would see Maya and me as black girls, and she was determined to make sure we would grow into confident black women,” she wrote.

    • Leigh says...

      I’ve been wondering the same thing. She’s just as black as she is Indian. It strikes me (a black Woman) strange that she’s constantly referred to as black.

    • Sara says...

      Pretty sure it’s because her Black identity has more utility to her in the identity politics game.

    • Hannah says...

      Repyling to Sara in this comment thread – if you’re the Sara above that’s voting for Trump, then this comment on this thread gives away your game and shows your true colours…….

    • Sara says...

      Nopes, Hannah. Pointing out that this is likely a pragmatic/political decision. Do you disagree that identity politics is a dominating force among left-leaning voters?

    • Anon says...

      Isn’t her “blackness” from her Jamaican father? That’s what they said on the news. Who cares?! It’s a no-brainer to vote the lunatic out and some humans in!

    • Lois says...

      There’s also the legacy of slavery – anywhere from one-eighth Black to “one drop of black blood” has been the cutoff in the past to deny people essential rights.

      And even today, as a fellow Asian, I have seen my mixed-race friends get far worse treatment for their blackness than preferential treatment for their whiteness.

      Why shouldn’t she proudly own the heritage that has defined her, whether she wants it or not.

    • Eve says...

      Yup I agree with you Sara, def seems like a good political strategy to identify herself as black given the current events. When I saw that she was picked as candidate, my first thought was “well played Biden, well played”. xD

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      thanks for the recommendation!

    • SR says...

      I second this! These were great, nuanced discussions. Everyone must listen!!

    • Julie says...

      SECOND THIS RECOMMENDATION

  62. Merideth VanSant says...

    No reason to click into the site only to read your encouragement to donate for such-and-such candidate. Very disappointed that you’ve even included politics on the blog. You’ve lost lifelong readers in me and the women in my family.

    • Alexa says...

      Why shouldn’t she include *her* political beliefs on *her* blog?

    • NM says...

      Politics= health, children’s education, our national parks, the arts… people’s lives, safety, opportunities, their pursuit of joy and happiness.

      If that doesn’t belong here, I’m not sure what does.

      It’s time that people stopped drawing a thick line between the political and the personal.

      Politics means a voice for people, a community that cooperates and supports one another.

      Certainly beats a monarchy!!
      We all play a part. It can get dirty, sure, like everything in life. But the best way to get something clean is to bring it OUT to the LIGHT.

    • Ameya says...

      I feel the same, Meredith! It’s tremendously disappointing. I think the comments below demonstrate how much of a departure this post is from the usually high quality content on this site.

    • I personally love the way I’ve seen bloggers and other people who could so easily “stay out of politics” show up in these big ways over the past few years. It can be risky! But it’s worth it and it’s important. Better than staying silent when lives are, literally, on the line.
      Thanks for living an example of speaking up for your values, Cup of Jo! Even if they *gasp* might not be everyone’s values.

    • jules says...

      @meredith and anyone else telling someone what they should or should not write on their blog AND do in their business (yet claim to be “conservative” and probably defend wearing no mask as free speech. )

      We need all voices to rise up, speak out and galvanize action for the integrity of the constitution, human rights and the future of the planet. What’s at stake is that fundamental and what is that fundamental should NOT be partisan, merely American.
      CHEERS to Cup of Jo.

    • Anon says...

      Seeya then, bye!

  63. Laura says...

    Oh my god these comments–it feels 2016 all over again, and makes me super-pessimistic about this upcoming election. In an ideal world, we would have perfect candidates that we could vote for with unmitigated enthusiasm. We clearly do not live in that world. Yes, let’s be critical and hold people accountable, but by all means, don’t let your criticism keep you from voting, or working to get out the vote.

  64. Magdalena says...

    As a woman of color and an immigrant who became a naturalized citizen, I am disappointed by this pick. I do not base who I vote for on the color of their skin, but instead on the policies they represent. Kamala has a record for not doing things in the best interest of BIPOC. Additionally, big tech is backing her up and that scares me. I wish Joe had selected another candidate.

    • Agnes says...

      Thank you for saying this. In general, it feels a little RE-gressive just to jump on someone’s bandwagon based on their skin colour or gender. Aren’t we past that? Priti Patel (UK’s Home Secretary) is a woman of colour in a position of power and certainly does not get this type of blanket approval. She has to answer for what she does and says, just like anyone else. That to me feels more respectful. I know no one means disrespect but… please let’s move forward faster. Haha.

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      I don’t think people here are saying they’re voting for her just because of her skin color. I haven’t seen anyone say that? xo

    • Jessica says...

      It is so reductive of the post to say that the one reason that Jo or anyone else here supports Kamala is the color of her skin or her gender.
      She has an extensive lifetime of accomplishments. They were linked and noted with enthusiasm.
      I think the person who may be looking only at her skin is you, Magdalena.

    • Kate says...

      I couldnt agree more with you. And from what I’ve been reading the fact that she is backed financially by Big Tech is exactly one of the reasons why Biden picked her. I appreciate that she’s a strong WOC, but she votes where the money goes and that is no good.

    • JAM says...

      I love cup of jo and its community. It is nightly unwind. I’m a very liberal, atheist. I went to a catholic university and have many republican acquaintances. I have two dear friends who are incredibly generous, forgiving, compassionate and loyal people. They always have my back and have helped me through some very challenging times. They both vote republican. One is a hunter and doesn’t want changes in gun laws and the other one is pro-life. I’m sure there are other reasons that they vote republican that they don’t share with me. We love each other and respect that we have differing points of views.

    • Rose says...

      In response to Joanna’s comment on this comment – Jo I think there is something in the way you have constructed your article which discursively contributes to a sense that Kamala is valued on the basis of her race/ethnicity. Your second sentence reads: ‘she is the first Black woman and the first person of Indian descent to be nominated for national office by a major party, and only the fourth woman to be chosen for one of their presidential tickets.’ These are all very exciting and important points I’m and grateful to you for using your platform to engage with politics, and support her.

      But, as a Black woman (who would certainly be voting Biden Harris if I was in the US), I am tired of being described by my attributes instead of my achievements. I think the same could be said for how you describe Kamala – in fact it jumped out to me as soon as I read your second sentence. I’d love to know which of her policies you like, and why you think she’s a good candidate. Perhaps you could ask yourself whether, if she was a white women, you’d talk more about her achievements, policies, home life or anything else. If so, that might indicate space for further reflection with regard to how you think about race.

      Ultimately I think that any discourse that tokenises people of colour (or reduces them to their colour) will not fundamentally contribute to the dismantling of structural oppression. I work full time in this field and have noted similar discourses among white liberals in my social circle and more broadly, especially over the last few months in which such people are realising that colourblindness strengthens racial oppression and are therefore trying to understand how to speak about race perhaps for the first time.

      I’ve also recognised your platform increasingly attempting to understand and dismantle structural racism over the last few months/year or so which makes me super happy. So I hope you can read this comment as I’m intending it – as a constructive piece of feedback from a place of support and perhaps a provocation to think about race structurally as opposed to representationally.

    • Lois says...

      I saw too many comments in the WSJ spouting rhetoric that as a woman of color, has been hurtful throughout my life.

      Something along the lines of “she was only picked because she was black and a woman.”

      Disagree with her policy, disagree with her track record, but you cannot deny that she is accomplished and has the experience to be on the ticket.

      We are also allowed to celebrate this momentous occasion of a woman of color being on a presidential ticket, without reducing her to solely that.

  65. Susan says...

    Does anyone know if we can Venmo donations to the Biden/Harris campaign and, if so, how to make sure the address on Venmo is legit? Fingers crossed, and thank you!!!

  66. AGHAST AND SHOCKED says...

    OH MY GOD. This thread perhaps has been the most eye-opening for me in terms of the spread of lies and misinformation and the efficiency of all the fake news penetrating the society esp. spread by the “leaders” in power today! I cannot believe politics and old “republican ideals” are being discussed when 160K+ people have died, racism has gone up a notch and sexism, misogyny, money laundering and a complete decimation of American ideals and reputation has happened. If one was to go out into other societies, you would discover what a mockery the US has been made into! The one thing to do is UNDO the damage STAT!
    I could not believe that the current administration will come back to power after all that has happened. Now reading some of the comments, I’m fearful that it will. I cannot understand for the life of me, someone will vote for the same people who are in power today. I cannot understand. What more needs to happen for someone to change their mind? It is the epitome of selfishness!
    Go Biden/Harris! Go anyone against the current establishment!

    • Morgan says...

      I will probably be voting Biden/Harris as the current administration is appalling in every way. That being said, it makes my blood run cold to realize that, in the midst of civil uprising against police brutality and the over-policing of poor and BIPOC communities we have elected a COP to position of VP! Harris has made a career out of her “tough on crime” policies and is personally responsible for putting hundreds (if not thousands) of Black parents behind bars! This is looking at her track record, this is looking at the facts. Biden was a key figure in writing much of the 1994 crime bill, directly contributing to our current issue of mass incarceration. This presidential team fills me with fear just as much as the current administration! There is no good option in this election.

    • Reality Check says...

      As an Australian, the USA has definitely become fodder for ridicule, astonishment that people could be so easily bought by the one-liners tweeted in the small hours of the morning and let’s face the elephant in the room….he, personally, as your so-called Commander in Chief, is responsible for an unimaginable number of unnecessary deaths, simply because he didn’t act as he should’ve and stated it was just a flu.
      Get real. Get in touch with reality and vote the nutjob out to get a smidgen of international respect back, if it’s not too late.
      Really, the world cannot believe what that serpent has done to your country.

  67. Cary says...

    I’ve seen a few comments here about Kamala ‘getting the Black female vote and I think it’s important to note a few things. 1) Black women have been the backbone of the Democratic party for DECADES and consistently turn out as community organizers and highly engaged voters. Black women are not a monolith and deserve more credit for carrying the party, doing hard work, supporting candidates and showing up at the voting booth in higher numbers than their white counterparts. The assumption that Black women will automatically support this ticket because Kamala is also Black feels demeaning. 2) Kamala struggled to connect w Black voters in the primary cycle. My hope is that all of this summer’s necessary protest momentum forces both Biden and Harris to prioritize policy that protects Black lives and communities (not just criminal justice but environment justice and economic justice). What I know is, we first need to win.

    That said, I will ENTHUSIASTICALLY vote for Biden and Harris in November. Nothing is more important than protecting our democracy.

    • Anon says...

      What’s more important than you voting?
      Other people voting too!
      Get out there and talk to people, make sure they’re enrolled and vote for humanity.

  68. Anna says...

    Kamala was my early first choice for President and I am thrilled at this pick. She the smartest person in the room, poised, experienced and won’t take any BS.

    This ticket has the best shot at winning the 80,000 or so swing voters in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin who will ultimately decide this election.

    Biden-Harris 2020!

  69. C says...

    Speaking to the dissatisfied democratic socialists (I am one): If Angela Davis can vote for Biden, you can do it too.

  70. E says...

    Not happy about this ticket in any way – but I think for anyone who feels similarly unenthusiastic, it’s important to remember that the President and Vice President are in charge of important hiring at many levels. Especially after the current Administration’s choices in appointments, leaving vital roles unstaffed, and selecting federal judges, it is important to get people into office who will make better hiring decisions. There were other Black women candidates for VP who I would personally have celebrated, but at the end of the day, I trust both Biden and Harris to be more responsive to the American people than Trump ever has been or will be.

    • Bethany W. says...

      The choice is simple. Its a vote for leadership. Trump is not a leader, period. He has no morals, divisive person, racist, sexist, and is truly individualistic. Lets be a better America. We need to support Biden/Harris, period. Dont wait until things get much worse to force your hand to the better of the two options.

  71. Kate says...

    YES! Can’t wait to vote them in. And the personal is political, so thank you for airing your political positions on your deeply personal blog.

  72. AP says...

    Bravo. Thank you for posting this, especially knowing you’d get a decent number of complaints from people who still can’t seem to understand how serious this is. I was a Pete person initially, I’m planning to vote for Biden/Harris because… I mean, because I’m awake and not crazy?

    • CHRIS says...

      i’m Yang Gang but i like Pete too !

  73. Carolyn says...

    Yay for enthusiasm!!! I’m so tired of voting narratives that reduce all the candidates to bad choices, rely on tropes assigned to women—too ambitious, bitchy, etc, and are fundamentally based on cynicism. Ugh, that’s exhausting. In such a bleak political landscape and at a really polarizing time in history, let’s try some old fashioned hope, enthusiasm, and support. Maybe that could make a difference in the process and the outcome of this election cycle? Last time around, I quietly supported HRC and regretted my lack of enthusiasm and participation in the “lesser of two evils” narrative that plagued the conversations around her candidacy. I promised myself I would hold myself differently for this election cycle and I am resonating with you, Joanna and CoJ. Thanks for taking the lead!

    • Lila says...

      Thank you!!! I feel like in 2016 there was this internet trope that “no one likes Hillary” when in fact there were a lot of enthusiastic supporters in the millions of people that voted for her. Similarly, although I was a Warren supporter, Biden earned his supporters not just because people thought he could win, but because they saw a decency and thoughtfulness in him. And Harris becoming the first major political party black woman VP candidate is a big deal! The way that the media covers women politicians, especially women of color, can be super fraught, and we should really think about the scrutiny and judgement that women politicians get that men do not before repeating tired stereotypes.

    • Anon says...

      YAY! Love this positive comment! Biden and Harris will make a great team. What a great choice… Harris is brilliant and strong! It is so exciting – the possibility exists again of hearing from intelligent people leading the country, rather than ridiculous tweets from the current president.

  74. Louise says...

    To the people complaining that Biden/Harris aren’t enough of something to suit you, please vote for them anyway. You’re being handed a life raft to escape an ocean full of idiots.

    • Heather says...

      Haha love this

    • kb says...

      And the supreme court will decide issues for a long, long time to come. There are sure to be some new lifetime appointees in the next four years. Gay rights, climate, women’s rights, voter rights, corporate versus individuals rights, health care, case that affect us all will be decided by lifetime appointees. If that isn’t reason enough, I don’t know what is.

    • Nicole Z says...

      YES!!!! Thank you, Cup of Jo for this post.

    • Alexa says...

      YES. Thank you, Louise. Exhausted by people looking/holding out for their perfect candidate…meanwhile, this country is, at best, barely functioning under the current administration (and even that statement feels generous).

  75. Ann says...

    Got my bumper stickers!!!

  76. laura says...

    Yes, I will be voting Biden Harris!

  77. sam says...

    ok there’s a lot going on here in the combox, and I don’t know how to get into it (slash don’t need to; I have genuinely nothing to add) BUT in spite of knowing next to nothing about Harris I felt so excited when this was announced because… I… like the _look_ of her.

    I was surprised to feel this in myself. It’s what I accuse others of all the time–“you’re just voting for him because he’s the same as you”; “you profiled that person because they’re different from you.” I thought I was above it; guess not.

    I think it goes to show how important diversity is, and amplifying overlooked people and perspectives. More than I’d like to admit, I think we do things on the basis of what smacks of comfort. To make change we’ve got to change what people are comfortable with.

  78. Shara says...

    Thank you for speaking your truth and using your platform to affect positive change! Sending love and strength.

  79. Kelsey says...

    Kamala!!! Sharing your joy, and so excited to vote for them!!

  80. Suzanne says...

    I am disappointed in and alienated by this post. I am a feminist and progressive. However, I would never vote for someone just because they were a woman or a person of color. Kamala Harris should be respected for her undeniable accomplishments. However, across both political parties, candidates have shown a lack of willingness and ability to articulate the complex problems we face and the difficult and painful trade-offs required to address these problems. This post reflects the same lack of depth and thoughtfulness.

    • Grace says...

      100%!

    • Samantha says...

      NOTHING in this post says that Joanna will be voting for Biden because Kamala is a POC and a women. It states the fact that she is, in fact, a woman and a person of color.
      To quote:
      “She is the first Black woman and the first person of Indian descent to be nonimated for national office by a major party, and only the fourth woman to be chosen for one of their presidential tickets, reports the New York Times. All the clapping emojis!!! Biden Harris sounds really good, don’t you think?”

    • Virginia says...

      Agreed- this isn’t good or progress. I will not discount the need to get Trump out of the WH, but the DNC DOES NOT operate with the needs of the working people in mind. It’s a true shame that folks are so blind.

    • JJ says...

      I think saying “…both political parties candidates have shown a lack of willingness….” is a false equivalency. This POTUS lies every day about everything. He is a racist, a threat to democracy, a climate change denier, and an admitted sexual assaulter. His behavior is so outside the norms and the dignity of his office as to be satire. His language is abominable. HIs fixation on Obama is pathological. His irresponsible leadership during COVID is tragic and unforgivable. Perhaps Kamala Harris is not progressive enough for some of you. Perhaps she is not perfect. But the Biden/Harris team is infinitely better than the current toxic, dangerous, dishonest administration.

    • Anon says...

      JJ- thank you for this comment. Could not agree more.

  81. Tara Randolph says...

    Voting based on gender is not voting smart. Democratic females didn’t do it in 08 when Palin was on the republican ticket and it won’t work now on republican females.

    • Zoe says...

      Hahahahahahahahaha the comparison of Kamala and *Palin* hahahahahahahahaha

    • Aisha Barbeau says...

      If you read the linked article then you will see several reasons to support her (or not) that are not based on her gender or her race/ethnicity. No one is saying to vote for her only for those reasons, but I do think we can be excited about them.

  82. Teresa says...

    I’ve met with Kamala Harris several times and seen her in action. I find her to be an ambitious politician. She approved a hospital sale to appease, and get the endorsement of, one group, but then made so many onerous conditions to make the sale untenable, but still got the endorsement of the other group. She left a wake of disruption and pain for our community and came out with what she wanted–support for herself politically. She did not care about the people and community she would hurt. I’m sure it doesn’t keep her up at night. Her record as a prosecutor is worrisome, too, and that’s not keeping her up at night, either. I have seen her support and defend one position, but then argue the exact opposite position equally vehemently. Where is her moral center? What does she believe? She’s a lawyer and politician first. She’s shrewd, ambitious, and beyond brilliant. I don’t like her. I don’t trust her. That said, I held my nose and voted for her in the Senate race as the other option was unthinkable. Kamala connects with people. She asks difficult questions. She gets things done. She’ll make a great VP. I hope she’ll be on the side of good. This election is critical. What we decide as Americans will affect people around the world who have no voice in the matter. We need to vote. Trump/Pence is beyond despicable. So once again, with personal reservations and concerns, I will be voting for Kamala Harris. BidenHarris2020! God help us all.

    • Rubai says...

      Well said! Completely agree.

    • Raquel says...

      Thank you, Teresa – for sharing your experience and for articulating my own thoughts in a way I could not do it in writing lol. I agree with you 100%!

  83. callie says...

    No matter who you check on the ballot, I don’t think getting excited about politics is the answer for our current climate. No politician really has your or my best interests at heart. We need to vote, absolutely. We also need to heal our small circles and stop placing the blame – or even the hope – on our government and elected officials. The next elected president – Trump or Biden – will not have a magic wand to make all our problems disappear. Not all republicans are excited about Trump either – but republicans will vote for him the same way so many comments on this post have said about Biden (not really for him, but he’s better than the opposition) Let’s be kind to each other, let’s be honest with each other, and let’s be tolerant of each other – especially those with whom we disagree. We need to regain our individual power and patriotism – and stop waiting for the government to have all the answers. We the people can have a much greater impact than any president.

    • isabelle says...

      Getting excited about politics is the ONLY answer, because politics is the root of the issue. I have had it up to HERE with naive people hiding behind a veil of privilege and telling everyone else to “build each other up” and “not be divisive” because they are uncomfortable with being challenged. I am sick of hearing people gaslight others with “let’s agree to disagree” when the topic of discussion is literally people’s human rights. Whether you are interested in politics or not, politics is interested in you. Whether you like it or not, politics affects every aspect of your life, from the mailman delivering your holiday gifts to the doctor inserting a speculum in your vagina. It affects the food you eat and the schools your children attend. It outlines rules for how your employer or landlord can or cannot exploit you. People have power, but our power is in voting and activism. There is no individual patriot who is going to restructure a broken system. Nobody is asking for a hero or a dictator – we are asking for fair and honest representation. It is incredibly important that people become informed and participate in politics, especially local elections, which are less publicized but certainly just as (if not more) important than federal elections. Ambivalence is a choice and right now you are making a shameful choice. I am not going to say one more word on the matter because at this point people like you need to step up, be adults and educate yourselves.

    • Cynthia says...

      I totally agree.

    • Jenny says...

      Well said, Callie. I used to work on Capitol Hill and have a sour taste in my mouth from the experience. I am trying hard to be more involved in my local community/elections from here on out. I think that is where true change will come about. I doubt I’ll ever get excited about a political candidate again (even if they stand for everything I believe in). In the political world, it seems like there’s just too much at stake for real courage to take place, and changing laws don’t change hearts (not to say that changing laws is always pointless — just that they don’t hold much promise). As depressing as that sounds, I think the courage of everyday citizens is much more promising. :)

    • Roxana says...

      Callie, your words are easily some of the wisest and truest I’ve ever read on this site, especially with respect to politics.

      This: “We also need to heal our small circles and stop placing the blame – or even the hope – on our government and elected officials.”

      And this! “Let’s be kind to each other, let’s be honest with each other, and let’s be tolerant of each other – especially those with whom we disagree.”

      Thank you so much!