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A Q&A With Fleabag’s Costume Designer (!)

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

Have you seen Fleabag? I binged the second season in a weekend and have now developed a somewhat unhealthy obsession with creator and star Phoebe Waller-Bridge. Curious to learn more, I spoke with costume designer Ray Holman. He shared his thoughts on dressing a complicated character, the importance of affordable clothing, and those just-a-tad-too-short skirts…

As a style reporter, I couldn’t help noticing Fleabag’s clothes throughout the season. It’s not a show about fashion — the way, say, Sex in the City or Girls was. Most of the scenes rely heavily on tight camera shots, actually making it tricky to spot the full ensembles. But when you catch a glimpse of a head-to-toe look, you will see that the clothing is actually really good. It’s chic in a wait-I-would-actually-wear-that way. And I’m not the only one taking note. The fantastic keyhole jumpsuit from the first episode of the second season sold out in a day, and viewers went nuts about her signature red lipstick: Mac’s Dare You.

Here’s what costume designer Ray Holman told us:

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

How do you dress a character as complicated as Fleabag, especially for a show that’s not designed to be about the clothes?
In Fleabag, they’re more of a supporting character. We worked quite hard to make sure that every character was wearing the absolutely most suitable thing they could for the script and for the scenes. We tried to dress Fleabag herself according to her environment. For example, in Episode 2, where she goes to the priest’s jumble sale, I said, ‘Why don’t we do a floral dress with a denim jacket?’ It was like she was trying to impress the priest but in a not too overt way.

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

How do Fleabag’s clothes reveal who she is?
Fleabag is an urban woman who runs a café; she’s not a woman who runs around the city in designer clothes. She’s practical. She doesn’t wear high heels – she has on her comfortable Superga shoes.

Fleabag is slightly French, so there’s the idea that the French are quite chic and actually Fleabag is quite chic in her own way. We put a few striped tops in, and I did actually buy her berets, but they didn’t get on screen — we laughed about them. We liked the idea of her trench coat and denim skirts. She knows what she likes, and she knows what looks good on her.

Fleabag also doesn’t wear anything that’s outside of her price range. That’s the key to it. The clothes in the show were from stores like Benetton, Muji, Cos, Zara and Reformation.

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

Sex plays a big part in the plot lines of Fleabag, and yet she never dresses in a particularly revealing way.
It felt inappropriate to do that. Sexuality is fluid these days; it’s all about what’s going on in your head. You don’t have to dress a certain way. She dresses for practicality and for a bit of style as well.

Fleabag does wear a skirt that’s maybe a little too short, you know? Not in a sexual way, but it’s just a little bit near the knuckle. In the wedding episode, when she went up to the attic to talk to her dad, she had to hold the hem down. Most of her clothes fit really well, just some of her skirts are a little bit too short.

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

Tell me about the jumpsuit from the first episode. I love how it is at once revealing but powerful.
I remember the moment I saw the jumpsuit. We were in the fitting, and I said, ‘Look, I’m going to show you this, just put it on.’ She put the jumpsuit on and went, ‘Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, this is Episode 1.’ It looked amazing on her. It was making a statement, because at that point in our story she hadn’t seen her family for a year. So, she did make an effort. The jumpsuit, with her flat Supergas, not with her high heels.

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

What was the most difficult ensemble of the season for you?
The funeral outfit. The script had everyone remarking on how good Fleabag looked, as in ‘You look great — even at a funeral.’ It was the worst day of her life and everybody is saying she looks marvelous. Fleabag didn’t want to look good, so her funeral outfit had to be the simplest thing. If I’d dressed her up in an overtly sexual dress, that would have been completely inappropriate. That was a quite difficult thing to land on, really, but we did it, with a dress from Reiss.

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

Do you have a favorite Fleabag outfit?
In episode four, Fleabag is wearing a pair of wide-cut jeans, with white Superga canvas shoes and a stripey top and her coat. I like the simplicity of it. When you saw that silhouette, you knew it was her.

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

You dressed the other characters on the show, too. What was it like to juxtapose Fleabag with her sister, Claire?
It was actually easy to make them look different. Claire is a business woman and she is a bit obsessed with what she wears and how she looks. She dresses completely differently from Fleabag — in suits and bodycon dresses.

My favorite Claire moment was the wedding outfit. I was shopping with Sian [Clifford, the actress who plays Claire] picked it up and went, ‘I’d quite like to try this on.’ I went, ‘It’s nude.’ That was meaningful to us as a representation of her raw emotional condition at the wedding. She made some life-changing decisions and laid herself bare. Then I bought her the most beautiful emerald green shoes and emerald green clutch to go with them. You hardly saw them but when you did see them, they popped out and we liked that.

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

And then there is Olivia Colman, Fleabag’s godmother-turned-stepmother — who is an envelope-pushing artist.
In Episode 1, her character says, “Oh well, we’ve been to Japan on the art tour.” So, I bought some lovely Japanese fabrics. I made head wraps out of them, and you probably can’t even tell they were Japanese fabrics, but we both loved them.

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

Was it difficult to dress Boo, Fleabag’s dead best friend? We see her only in flashbacks.
I couldn’t really go shopping for her in the shops in the same way that I could for Fleabag, which is why I went down the vintage road. Boo is more of a hippie, so I went to secondhand stores and bought trendy vintage stuff — but stuff that didn’t cost a lot of money. It helped to make her feel like she was a different kind of person to Fleabag.

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

And the priest! What a fascinating, complicated character he is. How did his wardrobe reflect that?
At the beginning of the first episode, Phoebe and I wanted to slowly reveal the fact that he’s a priest. If we had put the collar on him from the beginning, the audience may have had a different impression of him. Instead, he wore a plain shirt. Then, during the dinner scene, you discover that he’s a handsome, swearing priest. It was quite nice to let him reveal it himself. After that, he wore his collar when he was on official business.

For his off-duty style, we decided his clothes would be a bit old and not up-to-date, but good clothes. The shirt he wore in episode one wasn’t overly expensive. It was just a shirt that looked nice on him. In another episode he wore an ordinary sweatshirt, but it was nicely fitted. Quite humble clothes, nothing flamboyant because we felt that the flamboyance in the priest came when he was wearing his vestments.

Fleabag: A Q&A With the Costume Designer

What do you hope viewers take away from Fleabag and her wardrobe?
Fleabag is an ordinary woman. She’s an ordinary, stylish woman. I’m quite thrilled that people are enjoying the clothes.


Thoughts? Can we just keep talking about Fleabag forever?

P.S. Q&As with the costume designers of Girls and Crazy Rich Asians, and what are we supposed to do after Fleabag?

  1. Sarah says...

    Can someone please tell me what’s the brand of Claire’s nude dress? I’ve been searching everywhere but no luck :(

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      i wish i knew!!

  2. Lindsey says...

    Does anyone know where Fleabag’s black pinafore-style jumpsuit is from? Not the famous keyhole jumpsuit but rather the one she wore in church with the striped breton top?

    • Anne says...

      Seconded!!! Please someone tell me where to find this! I have been desperately hunting for the pinafore-style jumpsuit.

  3. Irat says...

    Watched entire Season 2 last night and today I am wearing my wide blue jeans as an homage to her.
    I laughed and cried my eyes out, it was perfect.

  4. ALLISON says...

    This was such a great interview. I have been telling everyone who will listen about this show ever since season 1 came out. I could not believe how good season 2 was! We waited so long for it and I binged it in one evening. No regrets!

    Also, I am one of the people who hunted down her red lipstick. I wear Dare You all the time and I always, always get compliments on it. When people ask me what the shade is, I tell them how I found it and that they simply must watch this incredible show.

  5. Kara says...

    Just finished season 2. Oh my heart! Beyond words, it’s so good.

  6. Anne-Claire says...

    “Do you have a favorite Fleabag outfit?
    In episode four, Fleabag is wearing a pair of wide-cut jeans, with white Superga canvas shoes and a stripey top and her coat. I like the simplicity of it. When you saw that silhouette, you knew it was her.”

    This is my favorite outfit too, and I love that top! The jumpsuit is gorgeous but not my style and I don’t really see the appeal of the floral red dress but I’m obsessed with that top, do you know where is from?

  7. Kim says...

    Just needed to pop in and say that I just finished watching Fleabag in one day and now I’m completely obsessed. The priest…my heart is broken. Also, I want that red dress. ❤️

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      i’m so glad!!!!!

  8. Mims says...

    I love, love, love this show. Also want to shout out to the set designers…her parents bedroom with those amazing modernish bedside lamps against the yellow walls. And did you glimpse the glossy green bathroom tile in the just beyond the bedroom? Claire’s office (don’t mention how big it is!) The Guinea pig cafe decorations. That deco bathroom she cleans up her nosebleed in. The little bits of London we see look fun too.
    My only complaint: It is my pet peeve when characters like Fleabag really have no visible means of support beyond jobs they barely seem to show up too or seemingly would pay too little to support their lifestyle.

  9. A Martin says...

    Kneel.
    Piglet.
    Boo saying that she wants the love Fleabag has for her mom because it sounds lovely.. Aw, Boo 🥰
    The gold statue is based on Fleabag’s mom 😲
    That last scene in episode 6. Damn.
    *off I go to watch Season 2…again.

  10. Tracy says...

    Please don’t ever stop talking about this show. I struggled a bit through Season 1, but Season 2 was seriously brilliant. “Piglet”

  11. YES: can we please keep talking about Fleabag forever?

    Thank you for such a lovely post about the style on Fleabag. I’m torn about getting the romper because on the one hand, it’s gorgeous but at the same time, I feel like everyone would have it.

    I watched it a few weeks ago and it occurred to me that Fleabag’s mother was so prevalent in Season 2 and being a mother myself, I had some thoughts about it: http://bit.ly/2Xf3STs

  12. Ally says...

    I also developed a slightly unhealthy obsession with PWB. After watching both seasons of Fleabag twice, I watched her first show Crashing and started scouring the Internet for interviews with her. She is one one the most talented, unique, funny and original people working in entertainment right now.

  13. Maelle says...

    Just here to answer the question: can we just keep talking about Fleabag forever? YES PLEASE. You COJ team got me hooked, and i’ve been watching the two seasons back to back ever since, crying my eyes out at the last episode every.single.time.

  14. My favorite costume moment of this show was in the first season, when you meet Fleabag’s sister for the first time. (They are attending a talk about feminism together.) Her sister is wearing a nice wristwatch and it does SO MUCH to communicate who her sister is in comparison to Fleabag. (A rich woman who cares a lot about being on time, about schedules, who wouldn’t pull out her PHONE to see what time it is.) It’s such a small detail but it really stuck out to me!

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      what a great observation! you’re so right.

  15. liz says...

    ALSO got to just say that after I watched season 2, the first thing I did was search “Fleabag costume designer” hoping to find an article just like this. (because how do you watch this show and not wonder about the wardrobe choices? – along with all the other things) So thank you, I was so excited to find this post this morning! : )

  16. bethany says...

    I truly didn’t believe I would enjoy Fleabag as much as I did, but I stand corrected. I loved it so much. I LOVED the use of breaking the fourth wall in Season 2, especially the way Fleabag and the Hot Priest interacted. So unexpected and moving. And the costume design is truly inspirational. Bravo.

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      thank you!!!!

    • A Martin says...

      Thank you!!!

  17. Meghan says...

    No one I know has watched Fleabag and I’m dying to talk it through with someone.
    There were lots of pops of red in her wardrobe (and nosebleed LOL) this season, but I especially wondered about her red dress for the wedding… but does the red dress in the final episode symbolize that SHE may be the fox??!!!

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      IS SHE THE FOX????? omg i hadn’t thought of that. maybe it’s the temptation for love/sex/etc that is chasing him, and the fox comes in the moments when they’re closest? (and he seems to have a tortured past — addiction to alcohol etc?)

    • Kim says...

      Meghan, I was also wondering about her relationship to the fox. The way the fox comes slinking around at the end and Fleabag points him in the direction of the priest- so good. I feel like she will haunt him forever.

    • liz says...

      :O You figured it out This must be right!

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      such a great take, colleen! thanks for sharing.

  18. liz says...

    Love this! Don’t understand the “she’s slightly french” part. Because she’s part French? Because she likes striped shirts? Because she likes French style? Maybe I’m taking this too literally but that left my scratching my head : )
    Also: Loved that she wore that jumpsuit with supergas.

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      yes, she’s part french! xoxo

    • liz says...

      doh! I’m the same person who, on a previous post, was like “BUT HOW DO WE KNOW SHE IS FLEABAG?” lol I need things spelled out for me sometimes

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      haha the french thing is subtle. she and her sister speak french and i think they mentioned at one point that their mom was french?

  19. christine says...

    Loved this post and the show even more!!! watched it twice back to back and LOVED it even more the 2nd time. So disappointed there will not be a third season. Will have to try Killing Eve.

    • LIZ says...

      THERE WILL NOT BE A THIRD SEASON????

    • 'Becca'lise says...

      Killing Eve is FANTASTIC.

  20. Julie says...

    I watched season 1 after seeing it recommended here years ago and of course season 2 the minute it was available… and I’m a 56 yr old woman! It’s for every age I think, just have to have the right mindset for this type show. No one has mentioned watching the other show she created and starred in called “Crashing” it’s just as good! On same platform forget Netflix or amazon.

  21. One of my latest favorite shows!!! Loved that they did a recap before season 2 started. Such clever writing and fun way of capturing the characters.

    • Andrea says...

      yes! the recap was so good. such a small but amazing detail!

  22. Alyssa says...

    I haven’t watched this show (though I’m now thinking I should) but what fun it is to read about how costume designers think through these decisions. Such a fun read on this dreary Thursday in Pennsylvania.

    • Anya says...

      Agreed!! And i’m in PA too :)

  23. K says...

    Fleabag is life. What does everyone think of Killing Eve?

    • Leah says...

      best show on television

    • I liked the first season way more than the 2nd. LOVE Sandra Oh. Love the Russian psychopath killer ;)

    • Julie says...

      I came into Fleabag having been obsessed with Killing Eve-Jodi Comer’s performance is just MESMERIZING.

    • Kate says...

      Maybe the best show of all time. Every line of Caroline’s is priceless. Jodie Comer’s facial expressions should win every award. Sandra Oh is AMAZING.

    • Lauren E. says...

      I’m probably in the minority but I didn’t care for it. I watched the whole first season, and it was interesting but I just never fell in love with it the way most people did. And I wanted to love it because I looooove love love Fleabag.

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      i couldn’t get into it! but caroline loved it. i want to try again :)

  24. Alex says...

    Gush.

    Season two was some of the finest tellie and comment on the human condition I have seen in years.

    The priest. I mean I know I’m the seven millionth person but
    The
    Priest.

  25. Justine says...

    ps – buying the lipstick. Even if I just wear it at home, with my striped tops, alone with the baby.

  26. Justine says...

    I’m so obsessed with season 2. Obviously re-watched it immediately. Now I’m rewatching season 1. It’s bad. The good news…. I’m almost back to season 2.

  27. Laura C. says...

    Wow! I have started watching Fleabag because of your suggestion last week! I’m still at episode 2 of season 1, but I love the way she dresses! Thanks a lot for this!

  28. Isabell says...

    I am 37 and I am as much in LOVE with the hot priest and fleabag as I was with Patrick Swayze and baby when I was 16 years old. Kneel😅. My baby belongs to me. The comparison sucks – But can we just keep talking about fleabag forever?
    Greets from Germany

  29. Forever. Please. There will never be enough Fleabag content.

  30. Mara says...

    I am so glad I kept with this show! I started it based on the positive reviews here a couple weeks ago, but even 4 episodes in, I considered canning it (it was too strange for me), and would have were it not for the 25-minute episodes. But I ended up loving it so much (especially the 2nd season, holy smokes that priest is hot) and can’t wait to watch both seasons all over again!

  31. Jennifer says...

    Loved this! Fun interview and anything Fleabag is what I need to read now. And always. Such compelling television. I love all the things they did and didn’t say.

  32. Rose says...

    I’d love to watch fleabag, but see that only season 2 is available on amazon prime in Canada. Any readers know where to find season one in Canada?!

    • Nahal says...

      Rose, I’m also in Canada. We found season one on Amazon prime a few weeks ago. I logged into Amazon Prime and then searched for Fleabag and both seasons appeared.

  33. L says...

    Fascinating! This is a long shot, but does anyone out there have any clue who makes the simple black-and-gold watch Fleabag wears in S2? It kept catching my eye on my third (or fourth?) viewing (cried at the last scene every time).

  34. Abbey says...

    I love to comment on this blog but… UGH I … just… can’t. This show is utter *perfection.* Yes, let’s keep talking about it forever.

  35. mado says...

    Dear COJ Team, I would like to respectfully request that you reconsider your use of the word “binge” to describe tv-watching habits, as it can be triggering to people who have suffered/are suffering from eating disorders. Thank you for being such thoughtful and kind human beings on so many issues, which is really what prompted me to comment about this one.

  36. Marie says...

    But where are her wide leg jeans from?

  37. Kari says...

    This was such fun to read as I am a huge fan of the show! Thank you for the great content lately!

  38. Alexia says...

    Loved this interview and the show!
    Maybe it’s just me but I feel like “quite thrilled” is one of the most British expressions in the books?? ;)

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      Hahahaha yes! Just low-key thrilled NBD.

    • Alice says...

      Hahahah as a brit, I can confirm that when we say something is “quite” something, we mean “REALLY REALLY REALLY” instead. So I’ll often say “oh this is quite good” or “that’s quite nice” and mean OH MY GOD IT’S THE BEST THING EVER.

      See also: “Oh that’s not bad”- particularly when related to food, it means “HOLY CRAP IT’S DELICIOUS”. Ha!

    • Jen says...

      Ah but when we Brits say quite something, we really mean very very much! It’s quite wet out there = it’s chucking it down with rain; I’m quite happy = I’m ecstatic. Never underestimate our ability to totally do ourselves down!

    • k says...

      Hahaha! As a Brit this comment cracked me up. I think you need the intonation here.. it’s sort of like saying, ‘rather thrilled’ which also might be a British thing.

  39. Natalie says...

    Love it all. What a beautiful, gut-wrenching show! I loved it so much. And I love the way he played the priest, but I can’t see him as anyone other than his (psychotic) character on BBC’s Sherlock. Am I the only one? lol He was so good and so convincing as Moriarty – you have to see it! Still sexy, just in a much darker way. 😬

    • Catherine says...

      Moriarty and his odd voice are super creepy! Plus, the priest might be an alcoholic and have an anger problem? I LOVE Fleabag, but I think she’s anything but an ordinary woman, and that’s the point. She’s kind of terrible and extremely self-loathing, but that’s what makes the show so fun. She says and does what everyone else is thinking on the inside. I love Waller-Bridge and she played a barrister in the second season of Broadchurch with Olivia Colman.

    • Amy says...

      Omg! I couldn’t place him, which is good. I fell in love with him on Fleabag. Sigh.

    • Anna says...

      Catherine – thank you! You are the first person I’ve seen who’s mentioned that the priest totally seems to be an alcoholic. I also get a major alcoholic vibe from him and was surprised the media hasn’t picked up on it.

  40. Jennyg says...

    Love this interview and Fleabag. The green shoes and clutch Claire carries at the wedding was pure perfection!

  41. Gemma says...

    Kneel.

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      KNEEL.

    • Greta says...

      “Are you ok father?”

  42. K says...

    Brilliant show and I enjoyed reading the thought behind the clothes. It’s something I didn’t pick up on while watching it, which means it was so perfectly done.

  43. Kim says...

    Add me to the Fleabag fan club. It absolutely burns that there are only six episodes!!

    Give the people what they want, Bezos!

  44. tina crisas says...

    Oh could we please have an interview with Elizabeth Healy, who was the costume designer for the show “Catastrophe”? I was pretty speechless with Sharon’s wardrobe and I still think about it!! So much inspo! The way all the patterns, prints and bold colours meshed SO well within each other was unreal.

    • Sara says...

      Great idea! I’d love to read that interview!! Elizabeth Holmes, you are fabulous!!

    • Caitlin says...

      I agree!

    • Pam says...

      Yes! I love Sharon’s wardrobe so much!

    • Meg says...

      Yes!! Obsessed with Sharon’s wardrobe and that show.

    • Yes yes yes! I need Sharon’s yellow bag, and pretty much her entire wardrobe…

    • Grace says...

      Yes!! This would be amazing!!

    • Abby says...

      I am so glad someone commented this, I was so fascinated by Sharon’s style and I couldn’t tell if it was quirky in a slightly unstable way or actually kind of genius. Either way, I loved it and would LOVE to read Eholmes take on it.

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      such a great idea!!!!

  45. Alexandra says...

    I am so excited to see this interview today! The wide leg jeans and striped top was my favorite look as well!

    But really… can we keep talking about Fleabag forever?

    • A Martin says...

      Agreed on all accounts!!

  46. agnes says...

    So, there is a french version of fleabag! it’s called Mouche… Still, I really want to see the british original; I just want to watch PWB and listen to her voice. Love reading about the costumes.

  47. Diana McNeill says...

    I’m obsessed with this show!!!! Thank you for sharing. I started watching it because CoJ kept recommending it. So glad I did!

  48. Caitlin says...

    I became unhealthily obsessed with season 2 for about a week. It’s the only season of any show I’ve re-watched immediately upon finishing it. The priest – oh, my. Oh. My. And Fleabag is such a girl crush. Their scenes together were viscerally moving. The chemistry, the longing. This was a VERY fun post for me – thank you!!! (And thanks for the links!)

    • Abbey says...

      Yes. Yes, to all the above.

    • Liz C. says...

      SAME HERE! I keep asking my sister, coworkers, anyone I see if they have watched it yet. I need to talk about it with someone. Thank goodness for COJ readers who GET IT. I mean this is where I heard about the show in the first place, so it makes sense. But in terms of the obsession we now share, we’re not all crazy right? I cant stop thinking about the chemistry. Can we share other movies, shows, anything where the chemistry is “viscerally moving” like fleabag and the priest? Such a great post, and way to keep the obsession alive!

    • Alex says...

      Viscerally moving — so true!

    • Blair says...

      Same same! Can’t get enough of this show!!

      Also the priest in the blue sweater is perfection.

    • Emma says...

      I also immediately rewatched it as soon as I finished it. It’s one day later and I’m thinking about watching it a third time… send help! I want to re-watch it from his perspective instead of her perspective.

  49. ANDREA says...

    I kept wondering why the main character dressed in such tight necklines when she has a beautiful neck (like the one on the crazy dress when she and Boo are shopping for clothes). I thought that it was supposed to reflect something about her–and maybe it did–but I guess I won’t know now.

  50. Kim S says...

    but whereee is her perfect navy trench from!? :)

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      Cos!

  51. Mary says...

    Omg. Omg. Omg. Thank you for this! Thank you!!!!!!! I loved the show. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen it now. There was just so much genius. I loved the clothes, especially Fleabag’s because my style is similar and I wear a lot of blue and red. Thank you again.

  52. Kathleen says...

    welp, this is the first time I’ve screamed in delight when reading a blog post title! ha!

  53. Lauren E. says...

    The berets! Phoebe Waller Bridge does Vogue’s 73 Questions and she pulls on a beret mid-interview and looks SO. FREAKIN. CHIC. I just love her so much.

  54. celeste says...

    Having not seen the show, why is she called that? Googling for an answer.

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      It’s her family nickname is the show and also reveals how she’s kind of an outsider in her family. I think that’s why!

    • E says...

      For the love of all things holy, PLEASE keep talking about this show forever!! I watched after repeated references to it on COJ and now, like so many of you, am unhealthily obsessed with it. It profoundly moved me and gets better and more nuanced with every viewing. Episode 4 was everything – when he truly SEES her, the opening up, the vulnerability, KNEEL. Omg. I don’t think I’ve ever encountered another show that was such a perfect combination of funny, deeply moving, and HOT.

    • lydia says...

      is it a play on words? phoebe, phee, fee, flea and then flea bag? hmmm, wondering 🤔

    • claudia says...

      Actually it’s PWB’s own nickname in her family!