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My Beauty Uniform: Stacy London

My Beauty Uniform: Stacy London

Many of us know and adore Stacy London for her work as a style expert and the co-host of What Not To Wear. These days, though, she’s less concerned with looking great than living well. And in her new role as CEO of State Of, a line of skin and body products for menopausal symptoms, she’s excited to help others do the same. Here, she talks about her grey streak and the iconic lip color that looks good on everyone…

My Beauty Uniform: Stacy London

How did you first get into beauty?
Growing up, I was obsessed with anything sparkly, whether it was clothing or makeup. StageLight Cosmetics came out when I was in seventh grade, and the coolest possible thing you could do was have pots of their powdered eyeshadow. It was SO SHINY. I had no idea what I was doing; I would just put it over my entire eyelid and thought it looked great.

What other makeup did you like as a teenager?
Clinique’s Black Honey Almost Lipstick was de rigueur for my generation. It’s still a Clinique staple to this day. It’s one of those chameleon products that looks great on all different skin tones. But my relationship with makeup has changed as I’ve gotten older.

How so?
Well, first, I do find that as I age, wearing lots of makeup makes me look older. Second, as much as I enjoy makeup, I’ve never been good at the application. When I worked in TV, I felt so lucky to have professionals to do it for me. But at this point, I just don’t feel the need for that much artifice. I always love to try new things but I usually wind up going back to basics.

My Beauty Uniform: Stacy London

What are your basics in terms of makeup?
The only things I highlight nowadays are my lips and brows. I use Boy Brow from Glossier in black, and I also use the grey-brown brow pencil from Winky Lux. It’s a miracle pencil, I don’t understand it.

Do you tweeze your brows yourself? Because the shape is fantastic.
I don’t tweeze them at all! The truth is, they were tweezed to death in the 90s. I met the makeup artist Kevyn Aucoin when I worked at Vogue, and he was like, ‘Girl, I need to get you in a chair and get on those eyebrows.’ I told him, ‘I don’t want to live with a tweezer next to my toothbrush.’ But of course he wound up tweezing them, and of course he made them really, really thin. They grew back a little bit but not much, and I tried to maintain the shape. Now they just stay this way. That’s another perk of getting older: You have less hair!

My Beauty Uniform: Stacy London

Do you still have fun exploring and finding new products?
Oh, yes, makeup is still fun — and I doesn’t have to be high end to be great. I recently wandered the makeup aisle at CVS and found some incredible stuff. I got a Maybelline lipstick called Red Revival, and I’m OBSESSED with it. It’s a classic satin red.

My Beauty Uniform: Stacy London

Do you always do a red?
No, I’ll often wear another Pat McGrath lipstick called Beautiful Creature, which is a great everyday pinky plum.

Any other drugstore makeup staples you love?
I don’t often wear mascara, because I wear glasses and mascara tends to get on the lenses. But on that same CVS trip I picked up a tube of Covergirl Total Tease, which stays put. It darkens and thickens, but not too much, so it looks very natural. It’s also waterproof. I’m in the throes of perimenopause and makeup melts off my face when I have a hot flash. So, I never put anything on that could wind up rolling down my face.

My Beauty Uniform: Stacy London

Okay. Let’s talk skin care.
I have always been into skin care, because I got psoriasis as a child. So, I was constantly putting on creams to help heal my skin. I’ve been diligent about moisturizing and caring for my skin my whole life just because I’ve had to.

What does your morning routine look like?
I wash my face with Glow Recipe Blueberry Bounce Cleanser, which is very gentle. Then I’ll put on Sunday Riley’s Tidal Water Cream, which is a great moisturizer but not at all heavy. I finish with a Supergoop sunscreen. I love it because it’s the only sunblock that doesn’t make me feel like I’m going to sweat to death underneath it.

My Beauty Uniform: Stacy London

And how about nighttime?
Since the pandemic, baths are my new thing. I never really took them before — maybe if I was in a fancy hotel or something. Now, I take one at least three times a week. My entire self-care routine is about reducing discomfort in my body; I didn’t exercise for most of the last year, and now I’m getting back into strength training. On the days when I know I’m going to be mentally and physically worn out, I always plan to end with a bath. I use our Lavender Bath Salts from State Of, and when I get out I slather myself in the CBD Body Oil, for muscle fatigue.

You’ve been using those products for a while, right?
Yes, I’ve been dealing with perimenopausal symptoms for a while, and it changed the way I thought about my body. No one ever talks about this stuff! I’d actually been having symptoms for years before I knew that it was perimenopause. You get insomnia, mood swings, drier skin, drier vaginas! But I just thought I was crazy. When I finally learned more about it, I felt a bit like a superhero — because I still experienced these symptoms, but I was armed with information and could actually start to manage them.

Do you have a favorite product from State Of?
Yes, the Face Oil is my favorite. All the products are designed to absorb completely into the skin, so you don’t feel sticky. The Face Oil sinks in immediately, and makes my skin feel so nice and yummy and moist. And if I have a hot flash, it’s not like, uh, oh, there’s oil all over my face.

My Beauty Uniform: Stacy London

So, I have to ask about the famous streak. Do people still bring that up all the time?
ALL the time. People used to tell me to dye my hair because it made me look old, but I’ve had the streak since I was 11! I’ve never felt uncomfortable about it. I think it puts me in the same category as Cruella de Vil or Rogue from X-Men. That’s pretty iconic! There are actually easy ways I could hide it — I could part my hair a certain way and it wouldn’t show. But I would never. It’s a part of me. By the way, it’s not like I have this one little line of grey anymore. I’m going grey all over.

Has that been an adjustment?
Yeah, but I’m trying to train myself to look at these changes with wonder and fascination, rather than anxiety. Because the whole world tells us that aging is bad, and I just don’t buy it. Change is scary, and yeah, it is weird to look in the mirror and be like, ‘That’s not me. That’s not what I looked like at 38.’ But I want to be welcoming to those changes. So, when I notice more grey hairs, I’ll say little things to myself in the mirror, like, ‘I can’t wait to see more of you.’

My Beauty Uniform: Stacy London

You’ve been pretty outspoken about the term “anti-aging.” Can you talk about that?
I know, it’s so cliche to be like, ‘Anti-aging marketing is bad!’ But I cannot stand it. To be against aging is to be against the thing that’s inevitable for all of us — if we’re lucky. So, I can’t understand how anybody could write that on a product or in an ad campaign. What I’m hoping is that we start to lower our beauty expectations. And I don’t mean that we should think less of ourselves or that we aren’t good enough. I mean I hope we start to realize that we’re good enough as we are.

You’ve been very vocal about the process of aging, especially since entering your 50s in 2019. How did it feel to hit that milestone?
Sometimes I feel so excited about hitting this stage that I want to shout it from the rooftops. I have nothing to prove to anybody! Other days I wake up and feel lousy about it. It’s been a tough year in general. My dad got sick and then recently passed away. That’s another thing about middle age: It was time for me to lose my dad. That loss made me feel like a child again. I suddenly felt like I was six years old and lost in the supermarket. But it did really shift my thoughts about aging. It made me think less about my appearance and more about keeping my body physically strong and healthy. I’ve always been great about skin care, but now am I getting better about taking care of my bones and muscles. Every day, no matter how I feel about being in my fifties, I try to remind myself that I’m lucky to be here.

Thank you so much, Stacy!

P.S. More women share their beauty uniforms, including a polar explorer and a yoga teacher.

(Photos courtesy of Stacy London.)

  1. M.Nicole says...

    I used to be an avid watcher of What Not to Wear as a young woman in the earlier parts of my career. Now, in my 40s and starting to experience small changes with my body, I love all that she’s saying!

    I decided in my late 30s that I would not be afraid of or resentful toward aging. It’s a NORMAL and NATURAL process for every living human. I have zero interest in looking 10-20 years younger. Let the young girls enjoy their time while we middle age to senior women enjoy our time. My goals as I age are to live fully, rest well, eat great and love on my people.

  2. Elishbet says...

    I just love her so much.

  3. Leslie says...

    Yes! Yes! Yes!
    Let’s banish this anti-aging and diet culture for good!

  4. Longdenlife says...

    I live in the UK so havent heard of Stacey before.

    I have exactly the same grey streak as her!

    Its great to hear peri-menopause and menopause finally being discussed. Its happening in the UK more now with more documentaries being shown, presented by women in the appropriate age bracket, talking about the pros and cons of this stage in our lives

  5. Leah says...

    I like this evolution of Stacey London. I wasn’t a fan of her on What Not to Wear; I often found her critique of her make over participants to be unduly harsh. Sometimes I felt like the entire “dressing your” age piece was over done. What’s wrong with an older woman who loves rock band t-shirts and overalls? Also as a queer woman of color, it felt like Stacey and Clinton wanted people to dress in what was “appropriate” for a very white, upper middle class aesthetic. The show lacked empathy and diversity. That said, I’m into this new Stacey London and people do change. We should be able to talk about women aging and menopause without shame or embarrassment and kudos to Stacey for helping to encourage making this no big deal!

  6. Elaine says...

    I’ve always liked Stacy, now I love her! As a 73 year old who gets told frequently that I don’t look, or act my age, she is a role model. I don’t wear any makeup except skin cream and don’t feel like I need it. I do need to find her sunscreen. Anything that doesn’t feel like a mask over your face has got to be good,

    • Heather says...

      Elaine,
      I agree with you on everything you said. I have always loved Stacy and wear less makeup as I age. I’m 39 now and just like the way my face looks alone. :) I actually wear the sunscreen brand that Stacy mentioned using – Supergoop, and it’s great! I use the Unseen Sunscreen, which is super lightweight and clear, with a non-greasy matte finish. They have a lot of options. Here’s the site – http://supergoop.com

  7. Stacy London is a national (and local!) treasure.

  8. Meg says...

    goals goals goals, goals for days. Thanks for sharing her POV. It makes me feel more at home in my age (46 gah!) to hear from smart, grounded people here with me in my cohort. GenX love!

  9. As I 51 year old woman who doesn’t have children, this post is some of the most I’ve felt represented in A Cup of Jo, which I’ve been reading since Anton was a baby. It was so, so good to hear perimenopause, middle age, and parental loss addressed here. I find that most women don’t understand when to expect perimenopause to begin and what it will look like, and normalizing this intense and important process is so good. THANK YOU! More, more!

    • MJ says...

      YES YES YES!!!!! Please more stories about how to take good care of ourselves during perimenopause — from another devoted reader entering this phase of life (with a 9-year-old at home)!!! Thanks!

    • Katherine C. James says...

      Yes.

    • Kate says...

      YES!!!!!

    • Caitrin says...

      I’m a 28 year old with 2 small kids but I’m also fascinated by the perspectives on menopause and parental loss – those will be relevant for me one day too!

  10. JG says...

    I love Stacy! After hearing her on the Everything is fine podcast (which is amazing by the way), i tried the State of face oil and CBD body oil. I love both of them. Both of them have a great texture and feel to them. I have become a big fan.
    Now, to buy the eyebrow pencil, which is always a challenge for me.

  11. Jennyg says...

    What a thrill to see Stacy London on COJ!!! Thank you for making my day. Miss her and her fab show What Not To Wear!

  12. Rachel says...

    I love her!! More pro-aging content please! This is exactly the energy I needed as my greys have started coming in.

    • Jamey says...

      Yes, please! Let’s change the dialogue on aging. Aging is beauty. We don’t have to fight it. <3

  13. shannon says...

    Regarding menopause, Lara Briden and Aviva Romm both have recent or upcoming books on the topic of hormonal balance with a non HRT approach. Highly recommend both/either if you are interested in an approach beyond toughing it out or using western medicine alone.

    • Barbara McCulla says...

      Where can I find her striped dress? It’s SO CUTE!!!

    • Lesley says...

      After reading Lara Briden’s book “Hormone Repair Manual”, I finally understand how my hormones work at the ripe ol’ age of 40. Her recommendation of supplementing with taurine and magnesium have been a lifesaver for my PMS symptoms. Irritation, night sweats and anxiety all but gone!

  14. LJ says...

    I just, love her. <3

  15. Me says...

    Love the lipstick suggestions! How about a feature on lipstick to celebrate masks off? So excited to see bright smiles again!

    • Lucy says...

      love this idea!

  16. Love you Stacy 💜

  17. Cynthia Miller says...

    Thank you! Trying to find information on peri-menopause and what is going on with our 50-year-old bodies is hard! It is so nice to have someone talk about it! Thank you, Stacy! So much I agree with in this interview.

  18. Kimberly says...

    As someone who is also experiencing perimenopause, I really appreciate CoJ posting this interview with Stacy London. I have admired her silver streak of hair since the early days, and she has inspired me to embrace my silver as well. Bravo, Stacy!

  19. Leanne says...

    I didn’t think I could love her any more but clearly I was very wrong! Thank you for the fabulous interview.

    • Meggles says...

      I know. She is so great.

  20. Lee says...

    I am delighted to read about Stacy London.

  21. Elise G says...

    I was such a huge fan of Stacy London growing up, watching What Not to Wear. I think I’m an even bigger fan now! Her attitude about aging is a reminder that growing old is something to look forward to, and be proud of. I hope I’m as confident and self-accepting of myself in my fifties. Love her, love this post <3

  22. Aj says...

    I LOVED this interview! I love her! What a candid interview. And, while aging scares me when I look in the mirror at home, or catch a glimpse of myself in a public mirrored elevator or reflective door/window, I know it’s part of the deal. And yes, we should all just focus more on our overall wellbeing , physical and mental, and less about a few lines and wrinkles.

  23. Heather says...

    Good goddess please tell me that rainbow dress is available for sale somewhere online and preferably for less than $100!?!?

    • Taryn says...

      That’s what I came here to ask!

    • Elena says...

      @Heather, I feel like it’s an older Ace & Jig piece, so probably not under $100. I feel you, though. It’s so pretty!

    • margie says...

      YES!! I loved reading about her routine….now I’m ready for her week of outfits!!

  24. annie says...

    well isn’t this just a breath of fresh air. how wonderfully honest and poignant her commentary is about aging and her dad dying. <3

    P.S. i second the calls for a little (or long) interview with any specialist of perimenopause. i have a friend who went through breast cancer treatment and who now, at 34, has begun perimenopause as a result of treatment, and i think it would be great for women going through that to feel a) less alone, b) informed, and c) empowered. seems like the perfect content for COJ. :)

    • Heather says...

      Yes, please. I’m in a zoom meeting right now with my silk button up top… sitting on top of two folded up towels in my chair because I’m bleeding so heavily. Smile on my face for the camera. I’m told this amount of bleeding is normal for perimenopause, but it came as a shock the first time this happened. Anyway – ready for all the content on this topic.

    • Sasha L says...

      Heather, big hugs. I was going through this (heavy bleeding), in my early 40s, + a bunch of other really difficult symptoms. My doctor suggested period suppression aka “mini hormone therapy”, and it’s worked so great for me. Been doing so for about 8 years now. I just take a birth control pill every day, no placebo pills. I’ve had no negative side effects and feel very safe about this therapy. Needless to say, I haven’t missed my horrible period for one second. Period suppression isn’t right for everyone, but you could ask your Dr if you’re interested. Best of luck navigating this new time!

    • Meredith says...

      I am not perimenopausal, but have a bleeding disorder and have always had periods that have been insanely heavy and hard to deal with. I got on Lysteda a couple years ago and it has truly been life changing. It may be helpful for Heather and others going through this—worth asking your doctor about. (It’s not hormonal, it just helps you bleed less.)

    • deb says...

      Also to Heather, been there with the towel trick. Erratic, heavy bleeding for 2-3 years, finally had an ultrasound and discovered an endometrial polyp, was told “that’s most likely the cause of all the bleeding & will continue without removal.” Got that removed, and NO bleeding since 2 weeks post op.” Easy outpatient procedure, major lifestyle improvement”

    • Aya says...

      I too would love to learn more about menopause, aging and related subjects like skincare, sex, health etc. I just turned 37 and am suddenly in menopause due to breast cancer treatment (I need to shut down ovaries to prevent reoccurrence). I thought I’d have more time to adjust and learn about this.

  25. Hannah says...

    Wonderful article and comments. I am at a point where this is very inspiring to me. I love Stacy’s focus on taking care of herself from the inside as well as out. Also LOVING that striped top and palm leaf pants!

  26. Ceridwen says...

    “I suddenly felt like I was six years old and lost in the supermarket.” – That is exactly how I felt when my mum died last year but have not been able to articulate that feeling. Exactly. I love her outlook. Wonderful post.

  27. Nadine says...

    I was just thinking about her & Clinton, still miss them! Weird to see Stacy in sneakers, but this was a treat.

  28. Andrea says...

    I would love to see an interview with Amanda Thebe about perimenopause! Her book “Menopocalypse” is well-written and informative, and helped me understand WTF was going on over the past couple years. I recommend it to all my women friends!

    • Trish says...

      I second that. Amanda’s book is fantastic!!

  29. Kate says...

    More of this please! I am just now entering into peri-menopause and she’s totally right, this stuff isn’t talked about! Love the minimalist makeup/skincare too!

  30. Alex says...

    How brilliant is she! I’m on the cusp of 40 and for the first time last week i looked in the mirror and thought to myself, “It’s time for botox”. Reading this just gave me a huge sense of relief – no, i don’t need botox. I just need to remember, especially now with so much death and destruction happening around the world, I am lucky to be safe and alive.

  31. Megan says...

    This is so great! But can we get info on what Stacy is wearing, obvs? ;) Also, I loved WNTW, but I’ve also loved breaking the rules of WNTW (eg. I’m well over 35 and still wearing shorts).

  32. Meg says...

    I am fan-girling like crazy right now. Stacy London, you absolutely rock. Thank you for this amazing interview.

  33. Jen says...

    I have loved this woman for so long. What Not to Wear was formative for me. I miss it. She taught me what to wear, now she’s teaching what to expect. I might love her MORE now.

    • Lauren says...

      ME TOO <3 I miss wntw so much and there's always been something about Stacy that captivates me!

  34. Noelle says...

    This is awesome! Thank you for featuring Stacy. I LOVE her perspective on aging and her comment that “change is scary.” I have a daughter who is on the cusp of puberty and we had this very same conversation recently. She was saying that she was scared and she didn’t want her body to change. And I acknowledged these feelings, and told her that I could completely relate. I said that sometime I don’t recognize myself in the mirror and my wrinkles scare me! I explained that our bodies never STOP changing. It’s the beauty of life and growth and aging and its a privelage. We need more pro agers in this world!

    • Lauren says...

      I love that perspective – our bodies are always in flux, change is the only constant and it is both a wonderful and scary part of the human existance

  35. Kate says...

    Wow! Her skin is amazing! And lately I feel like everything I’ve been reading has made me feel so much more hopeful about aging, specifically being 50 feels like the new 30. Maybe it’s just that middle-aged and older women are no longer ‘invisible’ in the way they once were and we get to see how fabulous their lives are. Ugh. So exciting.

  36. Amanda H says...

    I loved this feature! Stacy is the coolest. I am in the midst of periomenopause at age 45 and the mood swings, insomnia and other stuff are ROUGH during an already terrible year. What a breath of fresh air to have Stacy talking so openly about these natural changes and helping to normalize and even celebrate them! Stacy is gorgeous inside and out!

  37. janelle says...

    just here to say that what not to wear wear was impactful/memorable for me too. would love to see a reboot!

  38. Amy says...

    I love this post! Such great advice that we should think that we are lucky to be aging as opposed to having our body look a certain way. Thank you for featuring peri menopausal products.

  39. Hilary says...

    This line hit me right in the guts: “To be against aging is to be against the thing that’s inevitable for all of us — if we’re lucky.”

    I lost a dear, darling friend to a car accident 2.5 years ago. She was 30 years old, a newlywed, and all she wanted in the world was to figure out a great professional passion, have babies, and grow old and get eye crinkles from laughing so much. I miss her every day.

    I am the CEO of my own little experience design firm, I have two gorgeous children, a happy marriage, and I’m well on my way to eye crinkles! So every time I am tempted to get down on myself about wrinkles, an errant grey hair, my saggy mum tum…I remind myself that I am living the dream she never got to have and I am so lucky.

    Part of grief is about finding meaning, and while I’ll never be ok with what happened, I will honor her memory by being grateful for every day I get to spend on this planet and I will be kind to myself about how I look while doing it.

    • Molly says...

      this is so lovely <3

    • L says...

      Yes to this. Knowing someone who died way too young really puts aging into the proper perspective. For me it was an amazing friend who seemed to have everything and a totally charmed life – he had a dream job, incredible house, beautiful and brilliant wife and a perfect newborn little girl and then poof he was gone to skin cancer at 33. Aging is such a privilege and I really try to never forget it. Of course this horrific pandemic has really driven that home again and when my growing number of grays start to freak me out I make myself remember all the amazing people who never got to see what they looked like with gray hair.

    • Lauren says...

      This is beautiful

      All she wanted in the world was to figure out a great professional passion, have babies, and grow old and get eye crinkles from laughing so much … I will honor her memory by being grateful for every day I get to spend on this planet and I will be kind to myself about how I look while doing it.”

  40. Cole says...

    Anytime I see Stacy London anywhere on the internet, I always gasp ‘STACY LONDON!’ and must-read…I love all these comments :)

    For memories sake, WNTW made SUCH an impact on me as a middle-schooler-I absolutely use their styling tips/psychology as a 33-year-old now.
    Beyond the show, she’s just so divine in her approach to health, life and generally being a person…adore you, Stacy!!!

    • Heather says...

      Could not agree more!!!

  41. Catherine says...

    Would love to read more about peri & menopause on COJ. Women’s options on how they want to go through it should be more openly discussed to bring both awareness and the possibilities of the choices we have. That should stop being guilty whisper as it still is too often. “themenopausedoctor” on IG is doing a great job about it btw.

  42. I was lucky enough to meet Stacy once and she was SO KIND and a real girls girl. I loved her before meeting her but really loved her after!

  43. Ramya says...

    I think what resonated the most with me in this profile was her statement about focusing on keeping the body physically strong and healthy as opposed to obsessing about appearance. I’ve certainly had a similar orientation over the last year, informed by the pandemic and other issues. And I find that when I take care of myself (including my mental health), it shows up in terms of how I look as well. Not exactly a groundbreaking revelation but it took me almost 43 years to come around to it!

    It made me think less about my appearance and more about keeping my body physically strong and healthy

  44. Mikayla says...

    Agreed that the Winky Lux brow pencil is proof that magic exists and this company is using it! My mom and I tested it; she has blonde brows, and I have almost-black ones. It looked great on both of us and looked soft and natural. I just…what?!

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      ooh now I really want to try it.

  45. J.R. says...

    Like so many, I GASPED in delight to see Stacy London featured here. I loved WNTW and I loved reading about her evolving attitudes towards make-up and fashion since then. And to have a focus on different stages of women’s health!!!! I also appreciated the range of photos shown for this article–she’s so gorgeous but not afraid to show different angles and parts of herself. LOVE LOVE LOVE Stacy!!!!!

  46. Anne Schermerhorn says...

    Thank you Stacy. I’m almost 64 and am pro aging. I think it is important for our daughters and granddaughters. Thanks for having this converstion.

    • Carol W Wayne says...

      Me too….and for our sons…They need to see us comfortable in our bodies and learning to go with each stage of life.

    • Susan says...

      Yes, Anne I totally agree. I’m 59 and have a 21 year old daughter and I try to be a role model for her in the way I think and speak about my body as a wonderful instrument I have the privilege of overseeing.

  47. awads says...

    i still need to know What Not to Wear!! and I’m 53! but i love this post. I can relate to so much of it, i’m the opposite, however: i take really good care of my body (exercise and diet) but not so much my skin. i think it’s too late for me, but i am at peace with my wrinkles :-)

  48. Hayley says...

    So much wisdom in here. We’re lucky to be here – and lucky to get to grow older. Through this pandemic year I have embraced my grays after 20 years of dying my hair, and while some moments are a bit wobbly, I’m mostly thrilled to have a cool new look that feels like an embrace of who I am, rather than burning my head to cover it up! Thanks Stacey and Cup of Jo for the profile.

  49. Jane says...

    I wonder what her apartment looks like? For that matter, Clinton’s, too!

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      I went to dinner at Red Hook Tavern the other night (in Red Hook, Brooklyn), and Clinton was there, waiting for a table! I was starstruck :)

  50. Laura says...

    I love Stacy! I remember first seeing her on What Not to Wear back in college (early 2000s) and absolutely loving her streak! I’m so glad she’s always kept it. Loved seeing beauty uniform here!

  51. Ruth says...

    LOVE HER ALWAYS AND FOREVER!

  52. RoseMarie says...

    Sorry if I missed it: what are the glasses she’s wearing the first photo?

  53. S says...

    Stacy… you’re absolutely ICONIC. I’m 23 and hope to have your exact attitude and approach as I enter different life stages.

  54. Justine says...

    I adore Stacy London! What a great feature. I love that she talks about perimenopause and menopause openly and frankly. We need more of that to normalize and educate. Also, she is gorgeous and one of my style icon as I enter my 50s

  55. Amy says...

    LOVE!!! Can we please do a week of outfits and maybe even some guest columns from Stacy?!

  56. K says...

    Beautifully said– “Sometimes I feel so excited about hitting this stage that I want to shout it from the rooftops. I have nothing to prove to anybody! Other days I wake up and feel lousy about it. My dad got sick and then recently passed away. That’s another thing about middle age: It was time for me to lose my dad. That loss made me feel like a child again. I suddenly felt like I was six years old and lost in the supermarket. But it did really shift my thoughts about aging. It made me think less about my appearance and more about keeping my body physically strong and healthy. I’ve always been great about skin care, but now am I getting better about taking care of my bones and muscles. Every day, no matter how I feel about being in my fifties, I try to remind myself that I’m lucky to be here.”

    Also that pink suit set and whatever she’s wearing in the bathtub are awesome

  57. I am 36 and have recently tried to fill my social media feed with women rocketing into their later years with verve and grace. Below are some of my favorites (and Goodbye Crop Top has a podcast episode with Stacy London that I LOVED). If anyone has additional suggestions, particularly by women of color, I would love to learn.

    https://www.goodbyecroptop.com/
    @and.bloom
    @grey_so_what
    @artfulcitystyle
    @elliwomen

    • Mandy says...

      Great idea thanks for sharing!

    • Meli says...

      @iconaccidental :D

    • Jax says...

      40s and up — top of my feed:
      @thatsnotmyage
      @kimair
      @hillhousevintage
      @wardrobeoxygen
      @theflairindex
      @kimfrance (of Everything is Fine podcast)
      @lucindachambers
      @ lindavwright
      @paolantonelli
      @debbiemillman
      @shopiwtbh

    • Jax says...

      @christenpears
      @olivialanguage
      @laura.cattano
      @carolineissa
      @padmalakshmi
      @weareageist (women and men)
      @thesilverwomen
      @amandademme

    • Julie says...

      Wow, thank you all! Jax, can’t wait to dive into all your recs.

  58. Alexis says...

    I am also curious why you would link to Bergdorf’s site instead of Pat McGrath’s proper website? The product isn’t even available at Bergdorf’s when you click on it.

    • Andy says...

      Love Stacey and love this pro aging interview! Elder queers make me feel so happy and optimistic!

  59. Alexis says...

    I am so happy to see Stacy’s face! My friend Andrew and I were devout WNTW viewers and I even got my mom into it. Echoing the wishes to see a week of outfits from her. I love her so much.

  60. C says...

    OMG STACY LONDON! I grew up watching What Not To Wear with my parents every Friday night. Now I have the theme jingle stuck in my head! She’s amazing :)

  61. Love this, especially seeing Kelsey Miller’s name here! xx

  62. Emma says...

    Oh my gosh! Never been more excited to read an article on here! I still do so many things because of all the advice my middle school brain stored away from What Not to Wear. I apply my eggplant eyeliner (green eyes here!) with an angled brush. And I always try things on because you never know until you try it on! And I find clothes that fit my body type to meet myself where I am at that point in life!

  63. laura says...

    when i came on here and saw her, and realized it was a beauty uniform interview (my fav), i literally said out loud: “whaaaaaaattttttt!?”
    loved the interview and loved learning more about her!

  64. Bee says...

    I would love to know Stacy’s – and other menopausal women’s – attitude towards HRT.. are you using it, in what form and are you finding it helpful? If you’re not using it, are there natural alternatives you’d recommend? Thanks so much!

    • Mouse says...

      I was in perimenopause in my 30s, completely done at 47, and have never done HRT. My mother died young of breast cancer and the guidelines about HRT constantly change. I just toughed it out and now I’m basically fine. I recognize that that isn’t true for everyone–some women really struggle–but I found that peri was the worst, and after periods totally ended things calmed down. Yes, hot flashes suck and I have found myself more prone to surges of anger–not necessarily a bad thing, actually–but it’s life. I’m with Stacy on getting strong and preparing to go into older age in a healthy way.

    • Bee says...

      So interesting to hear different perspectives! Thanks Diana and Mouse!

  65. Tanya T says...

    Love this. Thank you.

  66. Sheri says...

    Please do more with Stacy! Her outfits, please.

  67. Agnès says...

    I have no idea who that woman is, never been a tv fan but i love that interview! I’m 48 and yes, ageing is real, call it premenopause or not. And it comes with the loss of parents, friends and the loss of possibilities. But comes with it such a deep freedom, an energy and an appetite for life that believe me, I’m loving that moment much more than any previous decade. Love the grey hair.

  68. Catherine says...

    I just love her! And yes, we must talk more about menopause!

  69. Tanya T says...

    So great to see a MBU from someone in their 50s (like me, since last month). While I enjoy finding out about different people, sometimes it’s great to find common ground – and I also still use Black Honey :).

  70. Gill says...

    Love her. That is all.

  71. Charlotte says...

    I’m so excited to see Stacy here on COJ! I have a grey streak as well and regularly get comments from people comparing it to Stacy London’s–so much so that somehow I feel like I know her personally! Many sincere thank yous to Stacy for breaking down a lot of the stigma about being “too young” to go grey :)

  72. Carol says...

    Have loved Stacey for years. This interview makes me like her even more! She has great style

  73. Michaela says...

    OMG you interviewed Stacy London!!! This is so cool. What an amazing collaboration. I loved What Not To Wear growing up, and I appreciate Stacy’s approach to aging.

  74. Alison Briggs says...

    loved this!! brought back so many fond memories of WNTW – pleeeease do a week of outfits with her too!! this was great!

    • Rachel says...

      Yes please! I’d love to see her outfits!

    • Laura says...

      YESSS! Those pants in the first picture with that striped shirt- amazing!!! And her striped dress- I love it so much. Such happy and fun fashion. She is the best- her lightness and calm really shines through.

    • Wendy says...

      Thank you for this podcast! New to the world of menopause and listening now!

  75. Katie says...

    Ohmygoodness!!! Geeking out over this! Love Stacy London!!

  76. Jennie says...

    Stacy London is an absolute LEGEND!!! I was so excited to see her gorgeous face – what I wouldn’t do for more Stacy content on TV. Give this woman another show!

  77. Kayla says...

    Please consider removing the term “guru” and refrain from using it in the future. It’s cultural appropriation and just an inappropriate misuse of the word. Thank you!

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      Oh, yes, that makes sense. Changing now. Thank you!

    • Joaquina says...

      Serious and respectful question, do languages not borrow from others, with an eventual shift in the original word’s original meaning? Not seeing how using ‘guru’ to label a ‘specialist’ is cultural appropriation.

    • Roberta says...

      Oh for crying out loud…could you also tell us which other words of foreign origin are also not permitted – is calling you a cliché not permitted?

      Cup of Jo staff, I feel for you having to deal with what seems to be an increasingly intolerant and prickly bunch of readers…not sure when it changed, but it seems even the most innocuous articles get hit with unwarranted criticism.

    • Heather says...

      @Roberta – I think it’s a good practice to always take these suggestions seriously and think them through sincerely. I’m seeing the word “guru” defined as “a Sanskrit term for a “mentor, guide, expert, or master” of certain knowledge or field.” In that sense, I am curious about whether, in the native Sanskrit, it’s disrespectful to use the term for areas of expertise that might be considered more trivial – like skin care. Open to learn here.

    • Anu says...

      As someone of Indian origin, I actually like when words from Indian cultures are borrowed by other languages and shift and change in meaning! It’s a fascinating process that has been going on throughout history. I actually wrote an article about this once (borrowings from Indian languages into English). Please don’t stop using guru on my account!

    • Gigi says...

      I so agree with Roberta. I have read COJ for 10+ years and have basically stopped reading because of the constant capitulating. You do not need to bow to every piece of criticism lobbed your way. I miss the days where the content truly felt like Jo’s voice. I’m sure this comment will get deleted but maybe it will be at least be read first.

    • EC says...

      Hi, I am of Indian origin and I agree with Anu. It’s how languages evolve and we are not losing sleep over it. Neither should you :) As someone who worked in marketing in India, let me assure you that we used the word “marketing guru” a lot.

  78. DeAnn says...

    SO thankful to have recently turned 50 and that SO many women are talking positively about aging! Love reading many good quotable statements here, but one in particular I think COJ would be good at helping us all out with ~ “You get insomnia, mood swings, drier skin, drier vaginas! ”. DRIER VAGINAS leave zero room for spontaneous moments. I have had a rx for a lubricant that works, but takes a lot of planning. I’m not a huge fan of the messy gel solutions; which just stop the moment and feel like putting a condom on in a different way (not 19 anymore). There HAS to be better options (a quick spray?). Please tell us more COJ! Drier vaginas SUCK, sex doesn’t :).

    Thank you Stacy for sharing your truth ~ new fan here for sure. Go GenX!

    • R says...

      I have no affiliation but Foria products are absolutely amazing! I would shout it from the rooftops if I could!! Pricey but insanely…. And I mean insanely worth it.

    • Alison Briggs says...

      try uberlube! It was recommended to me after my second child was born (I was suffering from dryness as well) and it is the best! Not your typical lube at all!

    • Hannah Holden says...

      I’m taking a sea buckthorn supplement that I’m very happy with. It also helps with my dry eyes.

    • Diana K says...

      A few years ago my mom shyly asked me to order something for her on amazon. She sent me the link for 6 boxes of KY Liquibeads Vaginal Moisturizer. I’ve since seen a lot more boxes at my parents house so I think it’s safe to say she’s a fan.

    • Elizabeth says...

      Seabuckthorn!! Sibu Omega 7 capsules are not expensive, available on Amazon, and do wonders for your hair, skin AND vagina!

    • Kelly L. says...

      I use a line of products recommended by my OB/GYN from a company called Bonafide. For dryness, I use their Revaree product a couple of times a week. Been so helpful!

    • Charlotte says...

      Vaginal dryness is one of the symptoms of peri/ menopause and often topical gels/ lubes don’t work because they don’t fix the underlying cause. Low dose estriadol cream can be the answer, applied directly into the vagina for absorption into the surrounding tissues. If not treated, vaginal atrophy can affect all areas down there and can hurt when you pee and generally make everything more tender/ fragile. Here in the U.K. estriadol used this way has to be prescribed by your GP but astonishingly, not many women know enough to seek help. Lubes might help a little, but only a low dose hormone is a permanent fix. The dose is so low you can safely take it even if you can’t take “normal” HRT. (I am not a doctor, but would suggest you consult yours).

    • DeAnn Barlow says...

      Thanks for all the comments and honesty everyone!

      Charlotte ~ I actually do have a Dr. prescribed rx for estradiol, but do not like taking it all the time/on non-intimate days. That said, you make some interesting points I will be sure to discuss at my next scheduled appointment (my dr. specializes in women’s health with an interest in menopausal women! yay!).

  79. Rae says...

    Love, love, love Stacey London and every word of this post. If anyone can make discussions of menopause mainstream it is her.

  80. Cynthia says...

    Love this post! I have a gray streak in the front and I call it my skunk streak. I love it! The other day, it really stood out and I told my husband I looked like Cruella Deville. Ha ha! As I get older, the less makeup, the better.

  81. She has the world’s greatest smile.

  82. Erin says...

    I am getting a grey streak in front and I am SO EXCITED about it. My hair isn’t as dark as Stacy’s … more of a dark blonde/medium brown shade, so it jumps out less than hers, but I’m still stoked. My mom went grey from front to back and I’ve always secretly hoped I would, too. :)

  83. Jessica says...

    Thank you so much for this! I am TERRIFIED of menopause courtesy of the most recent NY Times article and it’s five million scary comments (I read them all). It’s such a relief to have someone casually mention they are in the “throes of perimenopause” and still look like they are coming out on top. I grew up enjoying Stacy London and I am so grateful to her for leading the way. Thank you, Stacy!!!

    • Bobby says...

      So here’s the thing that no one tells you — being on the other side of menopause is the best. No honestly — mood swings during can be untenable, don’t be afraid to try antidepressants during, but when you’re on the other side, yahoo! It’s what native American woman refer to as the shoring up of your “wise blood”.

    • Lulu says...

      Hi Jessica,

      Please, please don’t be terrified of perimenopause. Not everything you read will happen to you and it won’t happen all at once! Perhaps you will ‘sail through’.
      Just as any of our own period/miscarriage/pregnancy/physical/mental experiences are unique to each of us, perimenopause and menopause are just the same. We will all come through it in our own ways, but we can talk about it and share our experiences. This gives us power.
      I am so glad to see posts like this that raise the topic.

      Sending you a hug.

      X Lulu ( also in the throes of permimenopause)

    • DCSea says...

      The rampant menopause fear-mongering is so disheartening and unnecessary. The truth is that menopause is different for everyone, so it might be a lot better than you’re expecting. I can’t say that I LOVED menopause, but it really wasn’t that bad. Like Stacy London, I found it helpful to keep a curious, open mind about everything as it unfolded: “Oh, so this is an interesting new development.” In general, looking at uncertain or scary situations with the detached view of an anthropologist helps me greatly. Now that I’m mostly on the other side of menopause, I’m starting to notice and appreciate some of the benefits that others have mentioned here. It’s shocking how little I now care about BS that used to seem *so* important, and that feels AMAZING. I’m just now starting to understand what peace and contentment feel like.

    • Candy says...

      Jessica — DCSEA and Lulu”s comments are exactly right. Menopausal symptoms are different for everyone and the fear-mongering about it, like it’s some terrible disease, is overwrought and, frankly, ageist. I personally found that acupuncture helped me reduce my hot flashes by 50% or more. Other people will have different solutions and experiences. Please don’t be afraid. Plus, I found that post-menopausal sex in my 50s has, in many ways, been so much better.

    • margaret says...

      I also want to offer a word of encouragement about menopause. I went in VERY early (41, I think) and thought it would be brutal based on a history of hormonal problems. But it really wasn’t awful! Not even close. For me, the insomnia was rough but the rest was fine. I wouldn’t say hot flashes are fun, but I just adjusted my attitude, telling myself how, as someone who is almost always cold, it was nice to have some relief (ha). And being on the other side of it is really great!

      I’ll share a quick story: Before the pandemic, I would frequently ride the subway with a woman of menopause-age who wore a clip-on fan – about four inches in diameter, she clipped it right to her jacket and pointed it at her face. She seemed like a total badass. I hope that I see her after the pandemic and she’s still wearing her fan!

  84. Annie says...

    QUEEEEEEEEEN.

  85. Love love LOVE her! Thanks so much for this post. She’s been a style and beauty icons for me going on 20 years now. xx

  86. Annie says...

    Oh, I feel like I’ve loved her forever! I love her clothes and that grey streak, but really I love her attitude–she always seems like she’s trying to discover and to be her honest and best self. What a delight to see her here!

  87. jane says...

    The entire stigma of aging was largely created by men in advertising back in the day who were terrified their wives would turn into those weird babushka/granny type women prevalent in old world Europe, mostly. Or else the western-style blue-haired, bulletproof hair type. But modern women have naturally evolved out of those styles (because they are no longer bound by archaic social “rules” about shutting down their lives when their husbands die – it was oppression and that’s what oppressed women look like), and neither they nor their husbands really have anything to worry about.

    • Claire says...

      Quite looking forward to being babushka esque! My gorgeous grandmother was a typical European style wife in comfy long skirts with short natural grey hair and floral scent. She was far from repressed. She was comfortable and being herself. She told me the only time she had trousers was during World War 2 as spares in the back of the ambulance she drove. She didnt wear them and didnt ever want to. I think you are barking up the wrong tree!

    • Anu says...

      Agree with Claire here! It’s not about how we look as we age, it’s about what’s on the inside. My grandmothers in India could look fairly conventional but they were very open-minded and comfortable with themselves. That’s what counts.

  88. Jj says...

    The GOAT!!!!

  89. Lori says...

    I love Stacy, and I also love seeing someone my age here – I’m reading like this: “clinique black honey, of COURSE I had that”, “thin 90’s eyebrows that never fully grew back, YES ME TOO”, “insomnia, what actually is a full night of sleep?”, and this continued for the whole article.
    And mostly, yes – aging is a privilege. Keeping our bodies strong and healthy is beautiful.
    LOVED IT!!

  90. Hannah says...

    Am I the only one not thrilled by this feature?
    One episode of WKNTW is etched in my memory of a poor woman, a mom of 3, mocked and humiliated (by Stacy London and Clinton Kelly) for her ‘frumpy’ style in a VERY NOT COOL way. It was such a massive turnoff. I could never enjoy their hosting again, because then I noticed how they used that snide, cooler-than-thou mechanism all over the place.
    With so many cool, kind hearted and awesome women featured here before, I’m surprised at this choice for Cup of Jo who I see as a beacon of kindness and inclusivity.

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      Thank you for your note, Hannah! I do agree that the show sometimes felt overly aggressive but I also think that was what reality TV culture was like back then and likely what the producers were pushing for. Stacy seems so warm and lovely on Instagram and other interviews we have read with her, and I think she has changed her approach SO MUCH through the past decade. I really love what she’s doing around aging and menopause.

    • Lo says...

      Isn’t inclusivity accepting that people can grow and change throughout their lives? And that one aspect that we see of someone’s life (especially from a decade ago) isn’t a reflection of the whole person?

      I really appreciated this feature for showing a different side to the Stacy London we might remember and amplifying the positive work she’s doing!

    • AN says...

      Hannah, I also tend to associate Stacy and Clinton with cringe-worthy moments, because I absolutely hate it when people feel embarrassed or awkward and I just want to jump in and help them/hug them. However, I think it’s important to remember how long ago that was and that people change. It definitely was the way shows were back then (similar to like, America’s Next Top Model), and Stacy seems to have had a lot of growth and/or made big changes based on what I know about her now :)

    • Sharon says...

      I loved WNTW…I agree that, on the surface, Stacy and Clinton might have had some harsh comments, but they were never nasty…always a bit tongue-in-cheek! Several of their makeover subject got upset…I remember Stacy always being very kind if that happened. Most importantly, the vast majority were thrilled with the “after” image! You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but I think you over-generalized in this case.

    • Amanda says...

      Stacy recently reflected on this approach on the Everything Is Fine podcast, talking about the initial coaching she received from producers (based on the original UK show’s style) and how her and Clinton’s style changed over the years as they came into their own as hosts. Highly recommend listening – a good case study in taking accountability and the willingness to change.

    • S says...

      Seriously? It was a reality show.

  91. CC says...

    Thank you for opening the door on talking about Menopause. It affects so many humans but not studied nor discussed as a health condition. Let’s help each other by talking about it.

  92. hilary says...

    Ah I smiled as soon as I saw Stacy was today’s beauty uniform! Like many others, I grew up watching her and love her philosophy on aging. What a great reminder that it’s such a gift to look (and be!) older.

  93. e says...

    Love it. Tell us where that striped DRESS is from!!

    • E says...

      Just saw—Whit!

  94. Gretchen says...

    This just brought me SO MUCH JOY. It’s the post that kept on giving.
    I religiously watched What Not To Wear when I was in high school. I always had to make sure that my family was going to be home by 9pm on Friday nights so that we wouldn’t miss it. So queue my initial happiness at seeing Stacey London here on COJ, who I haven’t been following since her TLC days.
    I’ve recently come out as queer (mainly to myself–somewhat to the outside word) and am trying to find my style. Stacey’s pink tuxedo pants and jacket is such great inspiration for an outfit that reads feminine but queer…. which made me then check out her instagram and realize that Stacey also recently came out as queer! And I am like unreasonably happy. It feels like the universe is reaching back to HS me, who loved What Not to Wear, and giving her a hug! <3 Celebrities (and all people) have every right to keep their sexuality to themselves. And at the same time, seeing stacey's love for her partner is so affirming.

    PS does anyone have ideas on where to find an outfit similar in essence with Stacey's amazing pink tuxedo pants/jacket combo? I am so inspired.

    • Christine says...

      Check out Mango and Zara — they have some great colored suit/set options!

    • K says...

      Wildfang! The pink suit is zadig et voltaire, and if you happen to be a size 6, there’s a jacket for resale on The Real Real…

    • Rae says...

      Alex Mill has some things with a similar vibe too!

  95. Megan says...

    GAH I love Stacy so much!! And that she and I apparently use a lot of the same products! Here’s to aging gracefully and loving it.

  96. Jackie C. says...

    Love love love this!! My mother exemplified the terror of aging and perhaps because of that, I’ve tried so hard to embrace it. Its so wonderful to see someone who wants to celebrate aging but also be real about the challenges and emotional moments that can entail. So love the normalization of aging and what a privilege it is!

  97. Lindsey says...

    Such a fun piece! Could you please share where her rainbow linen dress is from?

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      Whit! Xo

    • Sasha L says...

      One of the best parts of being 48 is that I feel more and more like me. It’s like layers of an onion peeling back…. To reveal a real human inside. I don’t worry about what works for others, I’ve had plenty of time to figure out what works for me. “What not to wear” lol, whatever I don’t want to wear. Trends are meaningless. I started wearing those stretchy expandable hair bands that were popular in the 90s I think – but they are great for keeping hair back while doing yoga and I think they look cute so I’m wearing them. I never stopped wearing overalls – pockets, comfy, super easy. Or Crocs lol.

      My two closest friends are nearly 60. We hike and back pack and climb mountains together. And also complain about our hips, feet, backs. The least of our worries is gray hair or eye crinkles. We worry about staying strong enough to keep doing what we love. Isn’t that what these precious bodies are for? Our lives are such gifts, this year has shown all of us that. I’m too old to care about looking old anymore.

      More content like this, pretty please. I love seeing posts that affirm what a gift life is.

    • Emily says...

      @joules – I’m sure she got it tailored to fit her best ;) Personally, I seem to forget sometimes that if I love something but it doesn’t fit right, I can usually get it taken in or tweaked or hemmed

  98. Sherri says...

    We’re good enough as we are! Love Stacy London!

  99. Bobby says...

    So, as someone who was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer on Dec 31st 2019, I asked my Oncologist if having my ovaries out (which I did as part of breast cancer treatment) would make me look older overnight. Her response? “I don’t know. I always tel people I’m in the PRO AGING business because I’m trying to keep you alive as long as possible.” BOY did that change my way of thinking!

    • TJ says...

      Bobby, I am rooting for you and your aging process. ❤️

    • Elizabeth says...

      Bobby, another pro-ager here, cheering you on!💕

    • Thank you for telling this story and reminding me of what is really important. It is exactly in line with what Stacy said about being lucky enough to grow older.
      I wish you the very best.

    • em says...

      <3

    • Tanya T says...

      Love this. Thank you.

    • Lena says...

      Thinking of you! And so much yes to “I’m in the PRO AGING business”! After having cancer last year and then another potentially fatal cancer scare less than six months later (thankfully I am OK), waking up every morning and recognizing I am still alive at 38 is something I will never take for granted again.

  100. Care says...

    Ugh!!! I grew up watching Stacy, have always admired her greatly. She always seemed to bring a wholeness and wellness approach to her role on the show. I think this beauty interview shows that, too. Thank you, Stacy!

  101. Laura says...

    LOVE STACY! What a treat to open Cup of Jo to her this afternoon :)