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Do or Don’t: Ice in Wine

Do or Don't: Ice in Wine

Last week, I was hanging out with my friend Gisela…

… when she reached into the freezer and unapologetically plunked two ice cubes into her white wine. “Putting ice in wine is a thing now,” she laughed. “In France, they call it a ‘piscine.'”

Then I saw a Bon Appetit article about nine situations in which it’s totally fine to ice your wine. “Are you at the airport?” they ask. “Are you a grandma? Is it too damn hot outside?” Go for it! Also, if you’re stuck ordering house wine at a dive bar, cutting it with ice makes it taste better. “It’s so dark no one is going to notice anyway.”

So, is this socially acceptable now? After putting the boys to bed, I’ll often pour myself a glass of wine, and on the nights that it’s room temp, I’ll add ice — just like my mother and her mother before her. True, it makes the flavor less punchy (and I wouldn’t do it with good wine), but it also hydrates you, makes the drink lasts longer and is a fun way to mix it up. Sometimes it’s just what you’re in the mood for — and isn’t that what wine is all about?

Thoughts? Do you put ice in your wine? Or no way? One of life’s important questions :)

P.S. A trick for choosing wine, and funny wine etiquette.

  1. Norah says...

    Yes of course! Ice! South Africa (where i live) is a huge wine-drinking culture and ice in white wine is absolutely standard. Red wine often needs a cube too, it’s often served too warm.

  2. Natalie says...

    Ice Cubes in wine, FOREVER! Ready to level up? Add some sprite, and make it a spritzer. No shame. They do that in Europe too! Have you ever heard of Kalimoxto? It’s red wine and coca cola mixed together, and apparently very popular in Spain. I haven’t given this a try yet, but I’m curious!

  3. I use a very petite white wine glass, toss 3 cubes in, pour the wine overtop until the glass is just under halfway full (as I would consider myself barbaric to drink from glass filled any more ;)), and that equals approximately a 2 oz pour. #theperfectmomdrink

  4. Madeline says...

    Have you ever tried wine pearls? They are essentially cold pieces of metal you put into your wine rather than ice cubes so your drink doesnt get diluted! I keep them in the fridge… such a lifesaver…I got them on Food52.com

  5. Alison H. says...

    I work for a winery as well and I think our winemaker would be appalled, but I’m not ashamed to admit I’m on team ice too! I’m shocked by how many people don’t find it unappealing, I’m also wondering how I could market “wine cubes” now. You do you!

  6. My SIL did this recently and asked if I wanted some too. My first reaction was total surprise but then I thought “well if someone who grew up in wine country surrounded by winemakers has no problem with this, why not!?”

  7. I’ve tried it with white but never rosé. I’m not a fan if the wine is chilled all ready but if not, the ice is a great option.

  8. alex says...

    my dad has always added ice to his white wine -and drinks it out of a whiskey tumbler! i have naturally followed suit.

  9. I work in the wine industry and will happily plonk ice cubes into my wine on a hot day, or if I haven’t managed to chill the bottle I’ve grabbed on the way out of work. Would I do it with an expensive or special occasion wine? No. But with a casual drinking bottle, why the hell not.

  10. Alex says...

    I love mixing red wine with la croix and frozen berries. Sooo good!

  11. Natasha says...

    Make ice cubes out of wine.

  12. Bianca says...

    When it comes to wine, my husband (who is an amateur wine expert) always says ‘you like what you like’ and sometimes what I like, is an ice cube in there on a hot day– and you know what else is delicious? A splash of coke in your red wine…mmmmmmm.

    • Alex says...

      intrigued!!!!!

    • sheila says...

      that’s a calimocho! also try some italian sparkling lemonade and red wine for tinto de verano

  13. Kristina says...

    I do it! I don’t give a damn if people don’t think it’s couth…it’s my wine time!!!! Only with lower-end whites- especially if you’re on the patio or in the bathtub (refreshing!!!). Plus the cubes clanging against the glass is just so delightful and summery.

  14. In college we said “one cube is classy, more than two is trashy.” Still rings true!

  15. I’ve been doing this for years! I knew I was ahead of the curb!

  16. Adriana says...

    In the summertime, when it’s too hot to drink red wine I mix a bottle of nonexpensive red with a small bottle of Sprite (the vending machine size) and serve over ice. In Latin America (and maybe Spain?) we call this “Tinto de verano” aka Summertime red!

    • I love this! We jokingly call this combo “sangria” at home. I like that there’s another name for it!

  17. Amanda says...

    You shouldn’t put ice in wine. (I do it with glee when no one is around other than my man).

  18. e. says...

    I’m Italian and ice with sounds like a blasphemy here, but it’s totally acceptable if you make it into a cocktail adding a couple of ingredients. So… come on, what’s the difference? Let’s do it.
    (I’m drinking a lot of Hugos this spring, by the way, with just prosecco, sparkling water, a bit of elderflower syrup, ice and some mint leaves. It’s the best)

    • katie says...

      Thank you for sharing Hugos. I’m getting on board.

    • Christina O says...

      Mmm a Hugo sounds delicious!

    • Cassie says...

      Never heard of a Hugo, but it sounds absolutely amazing!

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      sounds so good!

  19. Rose says...

    Was recently in Germany where my host suddenly poured sparkling water into his wine glass. I shook my head in disbelief of German tastes, but then I tasted a white whine “schorle” and was convinced. Hydration + sparkles in your white whine = good!

    • Natasha says...

      In Austria we call it “Spritzer” ;)

    • My german father always ordered me white whine spritzers at receptions when I was a teenager. I felt very cool and grown up!

    • Alex says...

      Yes, and we germans also like to pour seltzer water into apple juice, that is called a “Apfelschorle”. My husband is totally hooked on that. And that’s also what kids drink in Germany.
      We also like to pour sprite into an ice cold beer (a sixpoint crisp beer works). They call that a “Radeler”. Very refreshing in hot summer months.

    • Abby says...

      Absolutely common in Germany to mix white wine with sparkling water. It’s either called a “Weißweinschorle” or a “Spritzer”. Probably should add that Germany is also a wine country and it is completely acceptable to order this in the German wine regions. No high brows, nothing. So go for it!
      Also second the comment on drinking Hugo during summer. Already a classic like the more common Aperol Spritz. But who doesn’t love elderflower cordial?!

    • Samantha says...

      Some wine brands like Barefoot are making spritzer now, I love the red version, it’s actually pretty good and refreshing!

  20. Leah says...

    Ice can help bring red wine to the right temperature! Room temperature, which people think is the right serving temp for red, is usually 68-73F which is WAY too warm for red wine. Most reds are supposed to be served at the “room temperature” of a cellar (55F-ish); not your living room. Getting served room-temperature wine when I’m out at an otherwise seemingly nice place is one of my pet peeves. Serving any wine too warm is the best way to rob its flavors of subtlety—and make its acids “flabby,” in wine-speak. If your red tastes flat, it’s probably too warm. I usually swirl a cube or two for a few seconds and then scoop it out with a spoon so I don’t dilute things too much. This is perfectly acceptable for what I refer to as “utility wine”: your everyday, have-a-glass-after-work bottle. Ice to the rescue!

    • Luna says...

      I enjoyed your comment.

    • Samantha says...

      I approve of this message. Leaving the ice in the wine sounds atrocious to me.

  21. Christy says...

    If I didn’t put ice in my wine, I wouldn’t be a proud South African ;)

    • bklynmama says...

      this must be where i learned it! i do it regularly.

    • Lauren says...

      Me too!

  22. XO says...

    100% yes. Ice in wine makes me think of hot summer dinners at my in-laws (no air conditioning, or at least no willingness to turn on the a/c). My sil and I ALWAYS have ice in the wine—whether pink, white or red. On a practical note, the ice basically makes the wine a session drink. :)

  23. Patsy says...

    I love red wine if you can put ice in it to make each glass last longer & so you don’t get so inebriated after three or four glasses I’m all for it. A wine lover.

  24. gilli liat says...

    I dont but I will now! Love the idea of making the wine last longer, hydrating myself and making Rose colder!

  25. Carly says...

    I put ice in rose all the time!

  26. Megan LeCorgne says...

    My mom has for decades capped her night with a mini bottle of wine with a few ice cubes in the glass. She usually only drinks about half and my siblings and I always make fun of her half full glass sitting next to the sink the next morning. It’s one of her endearing quirks and it makes me smile to know other moms out there are doing it too. Plus it’s Florida, it’s never not hot.

  27. Marta says...

    I only put ice in sangria and in the sweet wine (usually white wine). For me is another drink. just to drink without food. And for thé summer is perfect…!

  28. Elise says...

    Yes! And a nice Pinot Noir in the fridge

    • Jen says...

      I LOVE to chill my reds in the fridge… and Pinot Noir happens to be my favorite ;-)

  29. Lorri says...

    I’ve been drinking boxed white wine with grapefruit flavored sparkling water! (And ice, of course!) Bigger drink, fewer calories, and the fizz makes it feel like a treat!

  30. Amy says...

    These comments are making my day. I want to drink with ALL THE GRANDMAS. I want to cover my bedroom in banana leaf wallpaper, sip my clinking glass of Chardonnay and Blanche-Devereaux-it-up!

    • Nicole says...

      Ditto to that!

  31. Claire says...

    I”m South African and during our long, hot, beautiful summer months, if you order a glass of white wine at ANY restaurant, it will come with a glass full of ice cubes for you to continually pop into it as needed. I found it strange when I moved back to SA after timea way but honestly, now I love it and it’s a real symbol of long, lazy summer afternoons now. I wouldn’t have it any other way!

  32. Stephanie says...

    I think I’m not alone when I say wine spritzers are a life saver at weddings. And who doesn’t love sangria come summertime?
    My mom is always apologetic that she likes “cheap, fruity wine” with ice. It breaks my heart to think she feels so judged over something as simple as her preferred drink when I’m just always thrilled to be spending time with her sipping and chatting! Why feel lesser over such trivial things? Especially when we already feel enough guilt, judgement, and shame about what we choose to put into our bodies.

  33. I was in a mediocre bar last night and had ice in the Pinot Grigio, which probably helped it be drinkable. We always laughed at my mom who always orders a side glass of ice with her wine, but not now. I was in France having dinner with a French family, my friend’s uncle put water in his wine. I think it’s a fine idea, especially when it’s warm outside and you don’t want a fast buzzz. I even tried a wine frappe (ice, favorite white or rose, whir in blender) when I was in 100° weather and it is quite wonderful.

    • Luna says...

      I must try the wine frappe especially in our high humidity summers. Thank you!

    • Kelly says...

      also known as a ‘f’ro-zay’ if you use rose ;)!

  34. Jessica says...

    i love putting ice in my red wine! cools it down and changes the flavor slightly. cool red wine is delicious!

  35. Liz says...

    I live in New Orleans, and it’s hot here nine months out of the year. Ice in your wine is the only way to keep it cool!

  36. Em says...

    I’m an ice-in-white girl, no shame here.

  37. Morgan Cox says...

    I go a step further… ice AND a float of seltzer water. I’m a big fan of the white wine spritzer! You can drink them. all. day. long.

    • Me too. Always add a bit of seltzer to my wine…tastes so much better!

    • Kelly says...

      i do this with a splash of lemonade too sometimes (white wine, seltzer, lemonade). so refreshing when it’s super hot and critical to enjoying day drinking in summer without passing out before dinner time!

  38. Caroline says...

    I love an ice cube in my white wine. I actually started doing it because of this blog. It was mentioned in a prior post and once you do it, there’s no going back. I like how it is extra cold with ice.

  39. Marta says...

    In Spain we have what we called ‘tinto de verano’ (summer wine if you want) and it’s basically house wine mixed with soda, ice and a slice of lemon. As for the soda, we usually use La Casera- to give you an idea it would be like mixing 7up and sparkling water.
    Tinto de verano is the prefect drink for summer lunches, it’s very refreshing and with the right punch. Oh, I can’t wait for Summer! :)

    • Alice says...

      Ah! Tinto de verano – heaven! But just in case it’s not obvious it’s a red wine drink not white.

    • Simone says...

      Tinto de verano with casera is the best!!!!

  40. Wendy Taylor says...

    We used to keep bagged frozen fruit in the freezer a mix or blueberries that kinda thing and drop it into our wine in the summer months.
    Then you can eat the fruit in the end.

    • Christine says...

      I was waiting for someone else to say this! I love frozen strawberries or peaches in my wine.

    • Veronica says...

      This is genius. As I drink a glass of white with ice I am wondering why did I not use frozen berries instead?

  41. Molly says...

    Yes, especially if it’s room temperature. I love both rose and white wine super cold so if that means adding a few ice cubes, I’m all for it.

    Basically, to each their own. Plus if you judge me for putting ice in my wine on occasion, I probably don’t want to hangout and find all the other ways you might judge me.

  42. In our family we call wine with ice a “Chardonna” after our Mom, Donna.

    It’s well over 100 degrees at her house in the summers. Ice in your wine is the only way to go.

    On a related note, Matthew McConaughey forever changed my life when he extolled the virtues of beer on the rocks. Throw some ice into a HydroFlask, slowly pour over your favorite beer, maybe even add a wedge of lemon or lime (!), grab a tube & head to the river! That’s livin right.

  43. Laura says...

    NOPE! Not a thing.

  44. Laura says...

    this whole article i was reading “ice” as “ice cream” and it wasn’t until i got to the bon appetit article that i realized it was sans cream. i’m disappointed. i already put ice in my wine if it’s hot and i was looking forward to trying out the new genius trend (and french, no less) of ice cream in wine. i mean, i’ll probably still try it.

    • molly says...

      I’m laugh-crying right now, Laura — this is outstanding! xo

    • Joanna Goddard says...

      hahahaha yes!

    • Gretchen says...

      I’m loving all these comments, but this one was my favorite.

    • HH says...

      I spent a summer in Jackson Hole, WY (mumble mumble) years ago. There is (was?) a local ice cream shop on the square that served merlot ice cream. It was so delicious. And, er, at that altitude, always gave me a buzz!

      Go right ahead, Laura!

  45. Jennie says...

    If I am drinking a white and I want it colder, I will put in a few frozen strawberries.

  46. Cara says...

    Hard YES on ice in wine. I call it my “white trash wine”. Like, I’ll put an ice cube into a glass of Rombauer Chard if it isn’t cold enough… I just really, really like my white wine really cold!

  47. Eliza says...

    This topic is fantastic! I watched the women in my family plop ice into their Pinot at holiday parties while growing up, yet it feels strangely current.

    I like all of my wine pretty chilled, but for some inexplicable reason, I’ve developed different methods of cooling for each “type” to wine.

    For red, I ALWAYS store it in the fridge and take the bottle out 10 minutes before I plan to drink it (sans ice). For white, I chill it in the freezer 10 minutes before I want to drink it. I like my white’s ice cold, but fine actually ices cuts the flavor too much. And for rose, I like to keep it in the fridge and drop two ice cubes into the glass along with an orange rind! Adds extra fragrance and festivity!

    • Maria says...

      Eliza – you’re actually serving your red the “proper” way. red is not truly meant to be room temp, but slightly chilled – NOT cold. i’ve read a good rule of thumb: for whites, store in fridge and take out for 20 minutes before serving. for reds, pop in fridge for 20 minutes before serving.

      i can’t wait 20 minutes for my wine ;) so i usually drink my red room temp, but as i try to always keep it in the basement before opening, it usually has a slight chill.

  48. jen says...

    Always put ice in my wine. If there is no ice, I add a little water. Did it in Paris, and the waiter smirked and brought me more ice…

  49. Emily says...

    Whether it’s red or white (though I typically prefer white) I ALWAYS put ice in my wine. The acidity of all wine gives me severe heartburn and the only way to prevent that is to make sure my wine is cold! I’ll even put it in the fridge, and then add ice. And I’m not sorry about it! ; ]

  50. Cordelia says...

    My grandfather got remarried a few years ago to a really lovely woman. I’ve never seen her drink anything alcoholic that wasn’t white wine, diluted with seltzer, with ice cubes. And a lot of it. :)

  51. I’m on the side of no ice in your wine, but enjoy room temp for red and chilled for white and always served with a side of the chilled water (that’s the hydration component!)…unless we’re talking frozé (frozen rosé) then that’s a different story!

    • c m says...

      Finally, a voice of reason! : ) I too say nope – didn’t think I was a wine snob on this topic, but I would never dilute a worthy glass of wine (I try not to bother with unworthy ones). I rolled my eyes for years every time my mom did this with her reasoning: “you drink less” (as she refilled her glass a couple more times)! If I’m that hot or thirsty, I will certainly swing a tall glass of water along with my vino. Guess this isn’t a very common opinion, though? Oh well – let’s just go with “everyone do your own thing!”

  52. Andrea says...

    I love Tinto de Verano from northern Spain–half red wine, half Fresca with ice and citrus slices.

  53. Amy says...

    Diane Keaton once described red wine over ice as her idea of perfect happiness in Vanity Fair. And she’s right, it’s delicious and refreshing. Like unsweetened sangria.

  54. Leticia Centeno says...

    I’m from Brazil and we have an amazing culinarist who runs a TV show named “Cozinha Pratica” which translates as Effortless Kitchen.

    I’ve learned plenty of good recipes from her show but most of all, great tips.

    One of them is to always have frozen seedless grapes in the freezer to be used as ice cubes for your wine.

    It does the trick, look pretty and does not get your drink watery. Best tip ever!

  55. French Girl says...

    I always make sure I have a fresh bottle of water in the fridge to go with my wine and in France you can always ask for a Carafe d’eau. Wine is not meant to hydrate you but to be dégusté !

    Wine is stored in “caves” so it does not need to be cooled, it is usually kept at 10-15°C. Putting ice in it will make it taste watery and loose its color (“la robe”). In France, some bottles are chilled (mainly rosé, sometimes white wines) but this will only happen in commercial / touristy / cheap places and never with good bottles.

    Generally speaking, putting ice in your wine will label you as a mega-tourist. At least here in Bourgogne :-)

    • French girl 2 says...

      Oh que oui! ;)

    • French Girl 3 says...

      +1 !

    • Rondi says...

      It is interesting to read about how wine is enjoyed in France. Good to know. But we must bloom where we are planted. Here in Florida we do not have basements let alone a wine cellar! Many bars and restaurants are outside. After a few warm glasses of red that have been in the heat too long you are grateful if they chill it. Many of the replys from ladies enjoying wine with ice are from the south of the United States. Its hot here. I love the heat but not in my wine glass! Ladies in warm climates, good for you, for your resourcefulness at finding a way to enjoy your wine in intense heat.

  56. Megan says...

    I loooove ice in rose or white wine! In the summer, it’s the only way I like to drink wine. I used to be ashamed, but I like ice in my wine so much that I subtly added ice to my rose at a wine-tasting in Miami. I was trying to be sneaky because ‘you’re not *supposed* to add ice to wine!’… but then the sommelier saw me and assured me that was a great way to enjoy this rose! Since then, I add ice with no shame.

  57. Avery says...

    I’m in a book club with mostly older ladies (my mother-in-law graciously invited me to join hers since she knows I’m a voracious reader) and all of the ladies put ice in their wine. Makes me cringe every time!

  58. This discussion reminds me of a recent interaction I had (it’s a stretch, but bear with me). As an older person was trying to make a ridiculous comment of how “breast is best” to my 38-weeks-pregnant-for-the-first-time-and-very-nervous best friend, I quickly jumped into to exclaim “a happy and fed baby is best, it doesn’t matter how that happens”.

    I feel this also applies to anyone that wants to enjoy a glass of wine (or anything else). It doesn’t matter what you add to it or what you drink it out of, as long as it is enjoyable to you! Antiquated faux pas be damned. All of them.

    • Rae says...

      Well said! And good for you for standing up for your friend. I took all advice / judgement to heart during that vulnerable new mother period.

    • Gen says...

      Like.

  59. Shauna says...

    Hydrate you? Lol maybe after several glasses of ice wine ???

  60. Keira Alexander says...

    Make the ice cubes out of the same wine you’re drinking — no dilution! :P

    • katie - says...

      BRILLIANT OMG HOW HAVE WE NEVER THOUGHT OF THIS?!?!

    • Jill says...

      Wine doesn’t freeze into cubes, right? Alcohol doesn’t freeze.

    • Keira Alexander says...

      Jill, I envy you for having never accidentally frozen a bottle of wine! (I did it to a rather pricey bottle of champagne that I forgot was chilling once). It’s true that alcohol doesn’t freeze, but the percentage in wine is low enough that it will freeze :)

  61. Lauren B. says...

    My grandma never misses her 5 o’clock wine ritual. If she’s traveling somewhere, she brings a mini cooler in the car! She drinks the worst wine (some SutterHome red blend) with a few ice cubes and in a tiny styrofoam cup. The kind you find in a church basement next to an old pot of coffee. I asked her about the ritual, and about the ice cubes, once…she said it all started back in the 70’s when she would play a round of golf almost everyday. Afterward, she’d be so hot that she would head to the club house for wine and throw some ice cubes in it to cool down. “It just stuck,” she said. She’s almost 90 now and it’s one of the things that is most endearing about her. Whenever I think about putting ice in wine I think about my grandma, and it just makes me happy.

    • katie - says...

      Right, on. Your Grandma sounds great.

    • Stephanie says...

      I lov your grandma!

  62. MJ says...

    You know how as you age in life you just stop giving a shit?
    Perfect exemple for me is, Mother of boyfriend #1 had boxed white wine in her fridge and would pour it and then add some frozen berries. Looked me in the eyes and was like “C’est pas chic mais c’est bon” which translates to not very fancy but delicious nonetheless. She was married to this super Bourgeois man for the longest time and I could totally see how this simple pleasure was a liberation from a snooty environment.
    Mother of boyfriend #2 would casually sip bottled beer with a straw on vacation. She was this super affluent and educated Doctor but there was zero shame in her beer-with-a-straw-game.

    • katie - says...

      LOVE THIS. What ladies. Cheers to not giving a shit.

  63. Mia says...

    Absolutely yes!

    I’m an American who has been living in Germany for six years, and one of my favorite habits that i’ve picked up here is the absolute normalcy of a few ice cubes in white wine, along with it’s close cousin, the Weinschorle: a glass filled most of the way with white wine and topped off with sparkling water and few ice cubes. Heaven on a hot day.

  64. Alyssa says...

    I for sure put ice in my wine and I’m not even ashamed. I often make a spritzer with ice and LeCroix. Wine and my body do not get along, probably due to the sugar, but mixing it makes everything okay. It’s one of my favorite things to drink in the summer.

    • Gabrielle says...

      I do this exact same thing! I’m in New Orleans, so this is my refreshing go-to most of the year. :)

    • Meg says...

      We cut our wine consumption in half by adding cold LaCroix to it! Apricot and Passionfruit are our favorites. This is especially helpful if the wine is room temp but LaCroix is already cold. The added sparkle is nice, too, and especially refreshing during the summer. (Not to mention, it helps reduce headaches…)

  65. Rachel says...

    When I lived in Italy, my Calabrian landlords used to chill red wine and add peeled peaches–delicious! I had the idea recently of adding frozen pomegranate seeds to white wine this summer. Once spring finally hits here in New England (will it ever???) I’ll give it a try!

  66. I used to be a total food and wine snob, but now I have two little kids. I have come to love white wine spritzers! During the “witching hour,” I’ll often pour myself half a glass of wine and then top it off with a lot of club soda or plain seltzer. It makes my drink last a really long time, and it’s so relaxing to sip on while they are throwing their dinner on the floor, guzzling tub water, and going through epic bedtime routines :)

    • Jill says...

      “Guzzling tub water”. ?????

  67. claire says...

    i say who cares. if you want ice in your wine, go for it!

  68. Laura says...

    As a Spaniard, I would have never dared. But… you know what? I’m going to try it.

    • Marcella says...

      Whaaat! I studied abroad in Sevilla and loved tinto de verano! That was the first time I saw ice in wine.

  69. Peter Miceli says...

    I love this…my mom, who passed away 5 years ago, used to always order a glass of ice for her wine. We chided her playfully about it, but now there are situations where I find myself doing the same. This makes me smile in her memory!

  70. I love wine but sometimes it’s too damn hot for a drink that’s going to warm up in 2.5 seconds without ice. So I’m firmly in the add ice category and like yours, my mom and grandma have been doing this for years.
    Fun story: I’m in Thailand right now and tonight I ordered a glass of red wine at a nice Italian restaurant. I wanted a glass of red to go with my pasta but I was worried it would be a bit of a risk because it was so warm out and a room temp beverage didn’t sound as refreshing as I wanted. But the risk paid off when the wine was served cold and absolutely delicious. So I think it really depends on a variety of factors including wine quality, your mood, and even the weather.
    But (as many others have said) with these sorts of things my motto is always “you do you girlfriend!”

  71. Teresa says...

    My grandmother is a proponent of white wine that comes in glass jugs, and she never drinks it without ice. This is so indicative of her “I’ll do what I want and no one is gonna stop me” character.